Now I know where the phrase "If you can't find 'em, grind 'em" came from! Oscar (the dog) and I spent the better part of the day bouncing down the roads around my neighborhood, no plates mind you. It was wonderful, I read some stuff here on stovebolt, went out and practiced. After a few rounds I think I got the hang of it. Biggest part is to relax and take my time. Thank you everybody for the advice, it is a lost art, and I know why.
Rob