I realize that some people buy a lot of stuff at Harbor Freight,and some people actually seem to get a good deal there.Now I am not a real top of the line tool buyer,but most of the stuff I have seen there is pure junk.My tool boxes are filled with 90 percent Craftsman hand tools,which are not exactly top of the line. They are however head and shoulders above the stuff sold at Harbor Freight.I call Harbor Freight a junk store.But to all of you who shop there,Good Luck,and I hope your tools do the job.