Brian you have my post right. Two boxes of shoes, 4 shoes with 1 3/4" wide by 11 1/4" long lining and the second set of 4 shoes with linings that are 1 3/4" by 10 1/2" long. Both are from Raybestos p/n 141PG. If I keep them I will put the longer linings on the front wheels. The shoes themself are identical. Now another thing has come up. I want extra friction (FF)linings and the edge code on the shoes should show it in a serial/compound number. These shows show nothing. After more inquiries it was suggested that these may be counterfeit shoes! More research to come.