I forget about the search function. No biggie , will try and remember next time. Previous owner hacked away to install a radio (hate when they do that) and install speakers on top but they are under the center vent. I couldn't figure how he got them in there becasue they are screwed from the top but looks like he build a contraption and then installed it from underneath. I was wanting to pull out fix, sand down repaint but i will just tape off and work it. Thanks guys.