Jon, I admire your persistence. After many years of beating one's head against a reinforced concrete wall, the only reward is the fact that it feels so good to stop. "My mind is made up- - - - -don't confuse me with facts!" seems to be the attitude of far too mnay people who know what they're going to do already, so trying to educate them is a fool's mission!
Jerry

"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln
Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt!
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway
Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!