yea, they were not cheap. I actually bought 2 originals after I ordered this one. what im thinking now is try to locate 2 more original ones, and not use these, or 2 more originals and just use these on the inner rears. I actually don't care for how they look either, so I am upping my search for gm wheels. sending emails everywhere I can think of that might have some. have to give them credit though, these are some extreme duty wheels. wheel discs are 1/4 inch, fully welded. 335 a wheel to make them.