thanks, i picked that name because a older man i bought some used tires off of said that. they were real wide tires for my c20 that had very thick tread. he said "that's some real hoggy rubber" funny phrases like that stick in my head. anyway, yes the turn signals work they don't blink yet because i don't have the front sig lights in yet. i have changed this wiring harness out this is one from a 64. it was a gommed up mess when i got it. i also changed the steering wheel and turn signal harness from the 64 as well. i got juice goin into the harness (signal) but none comin out. i will see which wires the turn sigs are using and try to trace it down, i need to pull the wheel off again sometime. just thought of somthin while i'm typin this i don't have the turn sig thing that plugs into the fuse box, i need to check into that too. thanks, i have the manuals for all these trucks and the wiring diagrams included they help me some but it doesn't show me all i want to know, or i can't understand all i want to. thanks to you all i will check out the link. hr