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#991901 12/11/2013 5:00 AM
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I have a question for you guys that know the 1954 3100 Chevy truck frames. I met a guy through a metal guy that is building a 1954 3100 truck. The crossmember that came with the truck was really modified,so he bought a 1954 crossmember from a supplier.The crossmember in the picture is supposed to be the correct crossmember for it.
As you can see in the picture,there is a bracket riveted to the frame rails on each side(factory rivets). crossmember picture Is this factory or did someone do this modification ? The truck had a 1947-1953 bellhousing in it,he now has a 54 bellhousing and crossmember for it.

Thanks,Tim

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Looks like a Hydra-Matic truck. The stock crossmember unbolts.


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I asked what transmission was in the truck when he bought it,he said 4 speed manual shift.The brackets have to be removed to use the replacement crossmember he has.Was there two different crossmembers for the 1954-1955.1 truck ?


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Here is the 1954 engine rear support cross-member.

As Cletis posted, the engine rear support in a 54/55 Hydra-Matic was not riveted, it was bolted on; and, the 1/2 ton H-M had a rear-transmission bolted-on cross-member (the manual transmission 1/2 trucks had no rear-transmission cross member).

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So do you have any clues on this setup ?


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Are the brackets inside the frame rail welded in or riveted in or bolted in? I cannot see inside the frame rail.

If I remember, I'll take a photo of the Hydra-Matic cross-member attachment point tomorrow morning.

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It's riveted in like I stated above.


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If they are riveted, there is no need to post photos of the H-M setup.

So, in answer to your question, "Was there two different cross-members for the 1954-1955.1 truck ?", there was only one 1954/54st 31xx rear engine cross-member for manual transmission trucks.

Most likely, whatever is attached at the cross-member mounting point will have to be removed. Do the rivet holes in the frame match the holes on the replacement cross-member?

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Yes,we know the brackets have to be removed to use the new crossmember he has.We just wanted to know if it was factory or if someone attached them to the frame.


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OK,there are two different crossmembers.One for Hydra-Matic truck and one for manual transmission truck. Pictures are worth a thousand words.He said the rivet holes do line up with the 54 crossmember he purchased.

Thanks,Tim


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