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I finally found the tranmission cover and inspection plate for my '46. Are these items installed with slotted screws or bolts, etc? Also, did these items originally get installed with gaskets or are they just installed 'metal to metal' to keep water splashes to a minimum. My service manual was of no help.

Are these items normally painted the same color as the transmission? Is the front inspection plate left shiny metal or painted a different color? See pics for reference.

Thanks in advance fellow Stovebolters!

Pic of cover and inspection plate

Pic of cover and inspection plate 2

Stove bolts Baby! I'm not sure which kind of captive washer they are. I think they are exterior star type.

I don't know exactly what kind of attachment a '46 would use for those covers, but my '50 uses slotted pan head screws, no washers. They are much easier to remove and remount with a long screw driver than trying to use a socket with extension. Less chance of over tightening and distorting the sheet metal too. Just my thoughts.
No gaskets were used. I painted mine chassis black to prevent corrosion, but I do think a natural finish was stock. And yes, I know a stove bolt is slotted, but generally with a smaller head than a pan head.

Drewp,
Are you saying a pan head screw has a larger head diameter than a stove bolt like those used for the tappet cover and the oil pan? I don't know what the pan head screw you are referring to looks like.
Carl

screw head shapes, different types come in a range of head sizes

but what you're talking about is not the "transmission inspection cover" [center floor pan inside cab] it's the bellhousing dust cover or sometimes called a clutch cover, and any fasteners I've ever seen there had bolt heads, not screw heads

Bill

red58,
Hey, you may be right. No argument here, but my '50 has panheads. Here's 2 pics. I may be wrong about no washers as this one has a star washer. I didn't crawl under my truck to verify them all.

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well we all know that after 50 years there's no telling if any fasteners on a particular part are 'original', especially on something like the inspection cover, which in many cases is missing altogether ... I'd use whatever works, but if the goal is a show level resto, then the assembly manual or pictures from a shop manual should provide the answer

Bill

Here is what the HD 3-speed looked like.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/advance-design_parts_co/8372543945/in/set-72157632499682475

My question now is, are the oil pan and tappet cover screws stovebolts? If not, then why do they call these engines stovebolts?

the sheet metal fasteners look[ed] like 'stovebolts' on the early engines - true stovebolts are bolts [with square nuts], not screws .... and why the engines are called stovebolts is lost in the mists of time

Bill

My '51 had slotted screws (stovebolts) with external star washers at all the mentioned locations.
Mark

Thanks for all of the information fellas. I went with the slotted screws and am super happy the factory had the foresight to put 'access holes' in the crossmember to tighten the two screws closest to the back of the truck. I also made a cork gasket for the bottom half.

See pic.
Pic of two piece trans cover

Anyone have pictures of early engine with actual (in appearance) stove bolts on them?