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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,781 Posts1,039,297 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 | Just Google IPE and you will find out. It is very commonly used in the Metro D.C. area and other places on the East Coast that I have seen. Here is a typical link about IPE http://ironwoods.com/products/our-species/ipe/ | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 | IPE is being used for boardwalk replacement in many NJ shore resorts, especially after the Sandy hurricane. As stated, it does hold up very well to all kinds of weather.
Drew
| | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 25 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 25 | IPE is a Brazilian walnut - a very hardwood. I have enough left over from my deck to put in my 46, maybe this winter if I'm ambitious. | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | So...IPE is an imported walnut species, doesn't that make it a very expensive wood????? That is, compared to the SYP that was used originally in the truck beds. DG
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 | Yes, Denny, it is. At HD it's about $3.50/sq ft, but I've seen it below $3. It's a cost/benefit issue for sure for small board foot purchasers.
Drew
| | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | Denny, the 'walnut' part is a common name, it's not related at all to any species of 'walnut' - but, yes very expensive compared to any softwood
Bill | | | | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 Gas Pumper | Gas Pumper Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 3,399 | You guys are always coming up with something helpful. Thanks for the tip. I will look into that for the several projects I have going. | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | I think I'll wait to order any Ipe until I hear about how much fun it is to router the grooves for the bed strips.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,901 | I think I'll wait to order any Ipe until I hear about how much fun it is to router the grooves for the bed strips. Hardwood like IPE actually works well. Small bites.Clean cuts...
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| | | | Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 29 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 29 | For your consideration - Clear finishes break down when they crack. The expansion of the wood along with the elasticity of the finish are key to preventing cracks, along with UV resistance. Compare Wood This link gives a table of strenght and durability of various woods. IPE is the most durable, readily available and (KEY PT) its stability is ranked third. US Coating This link is for a new coating from USC that is flexible; cross-linking to the wood. Anchorseal This link is for USC Anchorseal that is applied to the end cuts as soon as the cut is made. The end cut is the most vulnerable entrance for moisture. House of Hardwood This mill is located in Los Angeles. I got a $500 quote last year for custom milling 5/4 IPE, grade 1, kiln dried for the widths/lenghts for a 1956 short bed stepside, using the profile found on the MAR-L site with all corners radiused 1/16" (the coating will adhere better to a radius than a sharp edge, reducing cracking). | | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 | I went ahead and fabricated some Ipe bed wood. It will be many months before I need to install, but no time like the present... Remember, if left unfinished, the color all evens out to a light gray. I plan to leave unfinished. Ipe bed wood
Last edited by DavidF; 11/04/2013 5:55 PM.
| | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 | What about Doug fir? I live in the N.W. where it is plentiful. We have a small mill where we live so it is quite sustainable. I have some side rails on my 82 Chev truck for a few years now and it looks better as it ages. When I'm ready I'll have it milled with a semi rough surface and paint the bottom and edges black and probably leave the top surface unfinished. | | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 | Doug Fir would be beautiful but too soft for my purposes, which might have some cargo every now and then. IPE is like a rock. I just ordered some for my bed. Costs less than $400 and I will mill the proper profiles. I plan to seal it with Cabots Austrailian Timber Oil (ATO), which is a penetrating oil. DavidF's bed will also look great unfinished, but I personally like the soft glow that ATO brings out in IPE. I'm getting unpolished stainless Bed Strips & bolts from Mar-K.
Last edited by Ritchie 54; 11/05/2013 1:53 PM.
| | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 815 | That should really look good. I used Sikkens on our siding and deck and very happy with the results. It is a penetrating oil also. I might use it when I get around to the bed. Is your truck the same one thats in the old photo? Steve | | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 | The red truck is a photo of my grandfather driving his truck when he owned a hardware store; my older brother and sister are in the back. Circa 1952. I tried to find his original one and stumbled onto the one I purchased, which is the teal one. Great truck. I still want to find my grandfather's truck but fear it is long gone. | | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 | I milled all my IPE for the bed today - same as DavidF. For those planning on doing this themselves, start with an edge cut with a table saw and then use a 1/4" or 3/16" straight shank router bit for the deeper section. Mine came out great. Straight shank router bit set-up Milled bed wood ready for finishing | | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 | Just an update for anyone watching this thread. I sealed my IPE with Messmers UV oil treatment for hardwood. Looks great and should last well as the truck is kept in a garage. Oiled and wiped IPE - not dry yet Messmer's UV Hardwood Finish | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 | Just curious. Did you guys cut the step down dado for rib edge or just square cut the rib slot?
I'm using Mar-K plan with the cut step down, but wondered if you felt it necessary?
Drew
| | | | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,312 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,312 | Step down dado helps recess the edge of the bedstrips, making them sit lower in the bed. Also holds bed planks from moving around too much. | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 | Step down dado helps recess the edge of the bedstrips, making them sit lower in the bed. Also holds bed planks from moving around too much. Yes, got that, but just wondering if those guys(or others) actually did that as per this tech page. http://www.mar-k.com/Catalog/PDF/Instructions/Bed_Wood_Dimensions.pdf
Last edited by DrewP; 12/16/2013 9:30 PM.
Drew
| | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 | Yes - I did the step down per the detail. I made the deeper slot 1/4" vs. the 3/16" specified but the other dimensions are per that tech page. | | | | Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 388 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 388 | Ritchie, have a picture of your bedwood once it dried? I love the color of it (at least when its wet), how does it compare dry? | | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 | I'll send another photo. It is pretty much the same color but not shiny. It has a deep mahogany like color. I think it will look great when installed. I got the unpolished bed strips so I am hoping the combination of the satin finished IPE and the bed strips will look great together.
Last edited by Ritchie 54; 12/26/2013 4:30 PM.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 | I followed the Tech page as well and included the "step down". I made all cuts with a table saw, including the "step down". | | | | Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 5 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 5 | i used POPLAR. planed down to 7/8 thick. cut rabbets on edge`s, you can get measurements of mar-kay site. used poplar because it`s a hardwood, and paints very nice. the 7/8 fits perfect after rabbet on side angles. | | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 | Here is the IPE going in. I had to assemble it on the truck rather than as a separate assembly because my bed sides have some issues that I will address with the outer two pieces. Center IPE boards IPE at rear cross sill Although not original, it is beautiful | | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 165 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 165 | Ritchie - IPE is one of my very favorite woods. Never even thought of putting it in the bed. What coating do you plan on using?
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 | I coated it with Messmer's Oil, which we use a lot locally here. I also tried Cabot's Australian Timer Oil but like the look of Messmer's better. | | | | Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 165 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 165 |
36 Chevy 1.5 ton - rusting away 52 Chevy 3100 - in progress 72 Chevy K20 - DD
PANTS UP DON'T LOOT! PANTS UP DON'T LOOT!
NEVER watch another man eat a banana.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 | I finished my (unfinished) Ipe bed wood installation. You can see the results here. Should weather to a nice Nantucket gray. | | | | Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 388 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 388 | Here's my wood in the staining process. Red Oak, with 'honey' stain from minwax, and it'll all get covered with spar. bed wood | | | | Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 235 | Looks great - I finished mine with Messmers's as noted previously but do love the natural weathering without a finish. Let's compare the bed wood at the end of the summer. Both versions will look great. | | |
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