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#963936 08/15/2013 6:31 PM
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Trying to figure out how thick the radiator support pad is supposed to be. My '54 Chevrolet 1 ton takes the single center mount pad with two holes. I have some rubber conveyor belt in the shop but not sure how thick it needs to be. Anybody know off the top of their head?

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I think 3/16" no more than 1/4".

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I cut 2 pieces of roofing tar that comes in a roll at Home Depot. It is 1/8" and easy to vulcanize the two pieces together.


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just finished parting a '58 apache last weekend, I recall the rubber pad being a tad over 1/4" thick (going from memory though).

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Tractor Supply sells a pad for cattle to stand on , comes in 2 sizes 1/4 and 3/16 its 3 ft. wide and you can buy it by the foot under $10. I have used it for body pads on my 1950 Ford coupe , works great, going on my 55 for Rad. pads...and pads on the bed....


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Just looked it up ...3/8 " hole 2x2 x 1/4
Sec 11 Sheet 2.11


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Originally Posted by wanderer1955
Just looked it up ...3/8 " hole 2x2 x 1/4
Sec 11 Sheet 2.11
I don't think that's the correct cushion. The one I found is this one, 3684763 lists the pad as 2 1/4" x 1 1/4" but no thickness is mentioned. I'm pretty sure 1/4" is probably correct.

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Were there shims under your radiator mounting pads? These were used to help in the alignment of front sheet metal.

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I don't believe the width and length is at all important, just the 1/4" thickness of the pad.


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I don't think that's the correct cushion. The one I found is this one, 3684763 lists the pad as 2 1/4" x 1 1/4" but no thickness is mentioned. I'm pretty sure 1/4" is probably correct.

The #is 378516 on sect.11 sheet 2.11 ( I Googled that # Thats where I got the rubber 2x2 x1/4 ) either size would pro. work...
also couldn't find #3692225 body shim , { I figured it is metal looks the same size ..I would like to know...the #3684763 you found is for models 3800-4000-5000-6000 sect. 11 sheet 2.12...


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Originally Posted by tclederman
We're there shims under your radiator mounting pads? These were used to help in the alignment of front sheet metal.
I have never found a radiator support shim on any '54-55 1st trucks I've parted out.

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I'm pretty sure it is the right cushion and the correct support for the truck. My '54 3800 (comm.,util) radiator support has a single mounting point in the center with two bolts. All the aftermarket parts catalogs list a two pad system with shims as correct for '54 (possibly correct for some models but not all). I have found most parts suppliers are not always correct so you need to research and verify.

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Originally Posted by 55 1st suburban
Originally Posted by tclederman
We're there shims under your radiator mounting pads? These were used to help in the alignment of front sheet metal.
I have never found a radiator support shim on any '54-55 1st trucks I've parted out.

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See step 7 in "alignment" Your sheet metal alignment must have been good without use of shims? I have found at least one shim on all A-D trucks I have taken apart (they are mentioned in earlier A-D Shop Manuals, too).

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It would be my guess that many radiators were removed for some purpose, and like many mechanics have been known to do, the radiators were reinstalled without the shims.


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Jim, the shims and the rubber cushion aren't under the radiator,
they're under the core support and don't need to be touched
once the alignment is finished. As Tim pointed out that
adjustment is used when aligning the front clip.
If nothing has been bent out of shape from an accident if you
follow that hood alignment procedure as outlined it makes short
work out of aligning the back of the hood, which has given many
the 'Bolter a headache.
Oh, and a several of the guys have posted, the 1/4"
reinforced belting at the farm supply makes an
excellent starting point for the alignment.

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Originally Posted by Denny Graham
Jim, the shims and the rubber cushion aren't under the radiator,
they're under the core support and don't need to be touched
once the alignment is finished. As Tim pointed out that
adjustment is used when aligning the front clip.
If nothing has been bent out of shape from an accident if you
follow that hood alignment procedure as outlined it makes short
work out of aligning the back of the hood, which has given many
the 'Bolter a headache.
Oh, and a several of the guys have posted, the 1/4"
reinforced belting at the farm supply makes an
excellent starting point for the alignment.

Denny Graham
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You're right Denny. It's been 5 years and and a few fleeting brain cells. lol


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Hey Tim, what thickness shims have you found? I have honestly never found one.

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Bruce,

I believe you.

I have found three styles under the radiator support. One type is a body shim incorrectly used.

The ones that look correct are ones that are the same areal dimensions as the rubber pad, and they are very thin. I have found as many as four of these shins under a radiator.

Here are some examples, ignore the non-radiator shims:
https://www.chevsofthe40s.com/shop/...p;dept=Truck&searchtype=FT&Go=Go


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Thanks Tim, I feel kinda cheated to have never come across any! In guess I'll find out if I need them in the near future. Near future being a pretty vague timespan due to how long it seems to be taking to restore my truck!

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Ok, I dug into the gravel and found one where I'd parted that 58 apache, the thickness is .345. I incorrectly guessed at 1/4". They are NOT rubber (I was surprised), they are hard black plastic. There is a metal collar in the middle for the bolt to go through, that hole is roughly 1/2". I didn't measure the outer diamter of this little pad, I'd guess around 2.5". it goes UNDER the radiator support frame and the bolt goes downward through it and the bolt screws into the metal pad welded to the frame, now this is on '58, have no clue about your year. Hope that helps, lefty1

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lefty, the TF series is much different than any AD ... and the rubber pieces are both sides of the core support with the 'metal collar' going thru both

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Bill, that image is different than mine also. Single center support. I'll get some pictures of it and post them here. Got it installed today....finally.

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