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#949083 06/09/2013 8:28 AM
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Does. Anyone know of a conversion on a original oil pressure gauge from motor oil to vegetable. Is it even possible. Thanks

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Originally Posted by foremen
Does. Anyone know of a conversion on a original oil pressure gauge from motor oil to vegetable. Is it even possible. Thanks
Is this a joke?

What kind of vegetable do you want to covert it to?

Or, what kind of vegetable oil would you use?

The sender/gauge will not care - any fluid pressure is pressure.

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Originally Posted by tclederman
Is this a joke?

Sounds incredible, doesn't it?

However, a Nurse I work with, Sanjeev, is able to power his truck with vegetable oil.

Here's a website Sanjeev recommended:

http://www.greasecar.com/

The Hospital Cafeteria even supplies Sanjeev with his fuel at no cost!


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Dave,

I have a relative who powers his sightly modified diesel vehicle with used cooking oil.

The original post, however, seems to be referring to using vegetable oil as the replacement of engine lubrication oil (the question was about the oil pressure gauge)?

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I agree, it doesn't matter what medium is used, it only registers pressure. However, back in the 30's or so (I'm reading a book about the offenauser engines) they used castor oil in race engines (?) I do know castor oil is what was used in the little model airplane engines I played around with as a kid. They are most likely researching a vegetable oil based engine oil, as I have seen vegetable oil based penetrating oil. Just a guess.

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Motor Oil
The myths, facts, and mysteries of the slippery stuff that keeps your engine happy.
By Gordon Jennings, Originally published in Motorcyclist, October 1996


" . . . If "oiliness" were the only quality to be considered in choosing motor oils, we'd be squeezing all ours from castor beans. Castor oil, the smell of which once perfumed the air at motor races, is the oiliest of oils and it remains in some respects the supreme lubricant. It does oxidize too readily, however, forming ring-sticking gums and varnishes, and daubing fouling deposits on spark plugs. In a running engine, castor oil goes right to work gluing piston rings in their grooves and slathering gum and varnish everywhere. You wouldn't want it in any engine that can survive without its help.

But castor oil, a mixture of ricinoleic and triricinoleic glycerides, plus 10-12% of other fatty acids, remains one of the best lubricants for 2-stroke racing engines. Castor oil clings to metal with such tenacity it cannot be removed except by machining. It is an exceptionally effective film lubricant. . .

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I think it comes down to whether your a Wessn Oil or a Crisco man.


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maybe foremen wants to use the gauge in his waste veg oil bio-diesel converting process .... speak up foremen, inquiring minds are bored grin

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You bet we are bored. I am trying to figure out how to pre-heat the Crisco so that it will flow in a non warmed-up engine.

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...a friend, that painted my 37 started converting Mercedes cars to diesel for a doctor dang nigh 13 years ago. He has now converted many cars running around in Spartanburg. They take the used oil, heat it up and then strain it into big buckets/kegs. They've had free "gas" for years.

But now, using it for oil is a whole new world to me. Even the Castor oil thing is new to me. I always knew Castor had something to do with racing/lubrication but never what!

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EDIT (Hey guys, I sent foremen a PM so maybe he'll check in.)

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veg oil needs to either be refined into bio-diesel for the newer diesel engines or used with a tank heater and a pre-heating system for the older Detroits, there was a guy here with an old bus who went across Canada and back on the free deep fryer oil he collected from restaurants along the way - dumped it right in the tank thru a screened funnel to catch the solids - the exhaust smelled like french fries grin

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Originally Posted by tclederman
The original post, however, seems to be referring to using vegetable oil as the replacement of engine lubrication oil (the question was about the oil pressure gauge)?

OOOOOOH! Duh! My bad. Sorry.


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Originally Posted by tclederman
I am trying to figure out how to pre-heat the Crisco so that it will flow in a non warmed-up engine.
try this always worked for me http://www.pamcookingspray.com/non-stick-spray-products/ depends on what you want to do. bake it, grille it or just plain leave it stock.


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You bet we are bored
you shouldnt be, your going on a 200 mile trip to the biggest truck show on the east coast in two days. maybe you should try some of the products listed above to spray in your carb. maybe it will make it work better grin


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I sent foreman a PM asking to clarify what he meant as we are bored and have nothing to do but be curious.
His reply:

Ok I left the word oil out of my sentence and I think it got confusing. I was told by a guy from the truck stop that it might be possible to have my oil pressure line hooked up to something ????? At the firewall ware on the other end to my oil gauge in dash used veggie oil so in case of a leak I wouldn't have motor oil all over. I hope. I clarified it. Thanks everyone for your input


I'm not sure I still understand but maybe he'll be by a little later and give you "bored" guys something else to thing about!!! Maybe the Truck Stop guy was just "pulling his leg" and looked serious enough to make foreman believe it. Heck, I've heard worst tales!

Foremen, you better jump in here. These guys wont' sleep till they have it figured out smile

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A special lubricant vegetable engine oil for high performance torpedo engines was developed during WWII using oil from rape seeds. The seed name was not politically correct so they renamed it CANOLA which is sold today as a domestic low transfat oil for cooking.

CANOLA stands for CANadian Oil Low Acid designed/created by Agriculture Canada.

BUT I am not about to use it in my rebuilt 261..no way!!

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I hate to bring this up, but didn't they add ZDDP to oil way back when to help with oxidation? The modern oil we use now has many additives to make it what it is today, there is no reason they couldn't do the same sort of thing with vegetable oil. Am I the only one who has noticed that in each case the oil was for high performance/race engines?

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On a relatively unrelated note, Canola Spray (purchased in the cooking spray section at the grocery) is about the best lubricant you can use for drilling on your drill press, cutting on your metal dry cut saw, or metal cutting porta-band. Would I put it in an engine, no, but I'm old.


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so basically we have cussed, and discussed this matter quite thoroughly and still have no idea what the original poster was talking about? unless he meant to charge the line with said vegetable oil up to the gauge, but I don't know what good that would do. It would eventually work its way out, not to mention solidify at 25 degrees on a winters day. Even in a perfect situation you would still have vegetable oil all over the place if you had a leak. So if I understand this, my answer would be No, it isn't worth messing (pun intended) with, the gauges have worked the way they were designed (on the truck, as well as countless pressure gauges in all arenas of life) for about 150 years or so....

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