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I'm heading into an area I've avoided for decades as electrical do-hookies and I don't get along. I'm rebuilding my generator and starter for my 1954 Chevrolet 3800. I bought a kit and have disassembled the generator...almost. The generator I'm rebuilding was a working unit and I don't understand why after seeing some of the parts. I can't get this out, what's the trick. Next question is on the armature. This does not look healthy. What's a ballpark price for another one or a rebuild? And lastly, these wires came off something but I'm not sure. Do I need new field coils or is this something I can cobble back together? I don't understand electrical stuff so please use small words and act like you're talking to a 4 year old.

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When an electrical part is real bad like that its much cheaper to just get a reman. I like to do my own o-hauls too if you can clean it up & replace the brushes & bushings. When they are like that get a reman or find a used one in better shape & rebuild it. Normally you do not need to remove that big screw & the field coils.


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Hi Bruce -

I would love to rebuild my own generator and starter. They are pretty simple to take apart and easy to replace basic parts. But bearings, shaving armitures, etc. are beyond my comfort zone. I agree with George that rebuilt ones are probably better than I could do myself.

Stovebolter "Kennethw" - Ken Warner at Classic Generator in Midlothian, TX built the generator that is in my '54. He does starters, too. He used an original case, installed new or rebuilt components for my 12v system, and attached the correct 6v tag. He also tweaked a new voltage regulator for the generator. He does beautiful work, but it ain't cheap. Browse his website for parts kits for generators and starters, plus pics of his work.
http://www.classicgenerator.com/
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It won't cost much to try to rebuild them. Good way to learn. If you screw up, it won't affect the value of the core exchange.

Maybe these links can help ...

> Here is a recent thread about removing the screw ...
https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=941664

> 54 Truck Shop Manual - Section 12 Electrical
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/shop/1954truck/54ctsm1201.html

> 1950 Delco-Remy Electrical Service DR-5022
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/electrical/50dr5022/index.html

> DELCO-REMY Electrical Equipment Operation and Maintenance Handbook DR-324
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/electrical/49dr324/index.htm

> Ken Warner's starter repair kits
http://www.classicgenerator.com/StarterKits.html

> Ken Warner's generator repair kits
http://www.classicgenerator.com/GeneratorKits.html

> Ken Warner's parts to make it look pretty
http://www.classicgenerator.com/Miscparts.html

I'm interested in you rebuilds. Please post some pics and info as you proceed.

Good luck,

- Lonnie


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OK, I kinda gave up on that last generator. I went to the parts bin and grabbed another one. The new old generator has a much better armature. I stripped the case down and carefully blasted it and it's in primer now. Also in primer is one end cover and the fan pulley . I'm pretty sure the pulley is either raw metal or silver but have a question on the end covers. On the first generator one cover was painted and one was raw or silver colored. On the current generator both ends are painted. What's correct?

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probably either, aluminum castings weren't factory painted, but a rebuilder would paint the whole thing

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