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I have one more question about another truck I am thinking of buying. It is a 50 3800 chevrolet stake bed and looks to have a regular 8 lug frontend and wheels with hubcaps (front isn't as wide as my 1 ton) and a dually rear end with the factory style driveshaft. Did they ever do this from factory or did someone change the front or rear possibly.

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My 1950 DRW 3800 has an open driveshaft.
What size wheels are on the front?


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You may have a SRW truck that someone put dualls on. Otherwise, you would have the factory hub spacer on the front.


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My 1948 GMC 253 one ton, has standard 8 lug 17 inch pressed steel wheels with hub caps on the front w/7.50x17 tires and 8 lug Bud style steel dual wheels on the rear 18 inch rims w/7.00x18 tires.


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1948 GMC FC101 1/2t Pickup w/270 and SM420
1948 GMC FC253 1t Factory 80"x9' Flatbed Dually
1948 Chevy COE 2 Ton 8'x15' Flatbed
1950 GMC 354-24 2 Ton 8'X12' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist
1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton 8'x14' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist
1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton Cab and Chassis
1942 Clarkator 6 MILL-44 Heavy Aircraft Tug
1942 Ford (9N) Moto Tug with 1/2 yard Loader
1947 Oliver OC3 HG-42 Tract-Crawler Bull Dozier w/6' Blade
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Also it has an open drive line with emergency brake on the back of the transmission 131 inch wheel base


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1948 GMC FC101 1/2t Pickup w/270 and SM420
1948 GMC FC253 1t Factory 80"x9' Flatbed Dually
1948 Chevy COE 2 Ton 8'x15' Flatbed
1950 GMC 354-24 2 Ton 8'X12' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist
1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton 8'x14' Flatbed w/Dump Hoist
1953 GMC 454-30 3 Ton Cab and Chassis
1942 Clarkator 6 MILL-44 Heavy Aircraft Tug
1942 Ford (9N) Moto Tug with 1/2 yard Loader
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I have a GMC FC253 1 ton, mine's a '47 SRW titled as a'48. It has an open drive on a 137" wheel base. The e-brake is attached to the side of the trans. but with cables to operate the rear huck brake shoes. I'm 99% sure it's original set up if not the original one. The 9' bed is off of it right now so if you need pictures of that style I can post a few, Jim D


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Hi there first time on this forum and I just bought a 1947 chevy truck mine also has the 8 lug 17" wheels with hub caps on the front but it has 5 lug 17" dual wheels on the back, I am having a hard time identifying if this truck is a 3/4 or 1 ton could use some help with this

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Does your truck still have the data plate on the driver door frame? If yes run it through the VIN decoder in Tech Tips and it will tell you.

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Thanks Brad I was able to determine from the data plate that is is a 1947 one ton would you or anyone else have any idea what the rearend would be it is dually with bud style 5 lug bolt pattern, I have never seen one that was a 5 lug I have been trying to cut through all the grease but have not found any tags or numbers as of yet

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My 1947 is coded 3002 (I think). It has 18" rims in the front and a pair of 18" on each side in the rear. I would like to go with something other than the 18's but the brake drum size seems to be the limiting factor from what I am reading.


1947 - 3800 dually known as "Deadwrench"
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crawlerman - your rear axle is probably a 5.73:1 ratio. The 5 lugs on the rear are most likely adapters bolted onto the original 8 lugs. Mine has 6 lug adapters, and one side is left hand thread and the other is right hand thread. Not sure if yours are set up the same.


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Let's see some pictures of these adapters and axles.


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1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
1952 Chevrolet 3800 pickup
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54TOW thanks for the info you are right about the left and right threads are there any companies around that make the 5lug rim in a one piece style? I would like to keep the 5 lug

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I had found one company out of California that you send them your rim, and they would duplicate it in a one piece(tubeless) for you - @ $200+ each. I need to do this myself, but haven't gone for this option yet.


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5 lug hub on a 1 ton with left hand threads on the left side says 60's ford to me.
Let's see some pictures.

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1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
1952 Chevrolet 3800 pickup
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Grigg - in this picture you can see my truck with the left outer dual wheel removed. You will notice that the lugs are about at the same level as the outer surface of the axle. That's because there is an adapter(8 lug hub centered to 6 lug stud centered) between the inner dual wheel and the original wheel mounting surface. Crawlerman likely has the identical setup, but with a 5 lug adapter as seen here . This was a cheaper alternative to turn your single wheel axle to a dual wheel axle - usually seen on 3/4 and 1 ton farm trucks and buses of the day. Referenced here, in my first thread on the site, Jim Lee talks about adapters. In a later post from him here he links to his blog about his 1 ton bus with STEMCO adapters. He has great pictures of them on his blog .


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pics * 1954 wrecker * [color:#009900]1948 Chevy 1-Ton[/color]
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I recall those adapters now, thanks for the links.

to quote the blog
"These are off the rear wheels of the bus. They fit over the 8 lug one ton hub and provide an offset for the budd wheels. Note that these adapters fit the 8 lug hub and convert to a six lug wheel. The Stemco Model number is TD924. These were used primarily on school buses and wreckers. The allowed the body to be set on a one ton chassis which was usually narrower than a 1.5 ton or 2 ton or larger. "

Does that answer the question?

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1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
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Thanks for all the info has really helped me out. what is the company that can build the wheels like you was taking about I would like to post a pic to show the truck I am working on but have not figured out how to do that

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Stockton Wheel was the place I was referring to.


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Thanks I just sent them a email for more info


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