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#91115 11/15/2002 5:32 PM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3 | My 54 Chev 1/2 ton is equipped with a factoy installed Hydramatic transmission. It has been a hard starter every since I rebuilt the truck about 8 years ago. I have gone through all the obvious steps to check out the starting system but never found anything that made much of an improvemet. I am considering converting the starting/chagring system to 12 volts. What is involved in making the conversion? 
Bob Peterson
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#91116 11/15/2002 6:44 PM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 22 Member | | Member Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 22 | Hey Bob, Check out the tech tips section, and elsewhere in forums. This is one of the most common subjects on the site. Good Luck.
Jake
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#91117 11/15/2002 8:38 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | Bob,
Be careful. The HydraMatic starter is different from the manual transmission starter. One difference (I think) is that it has an electronic solenoid (not a foot starter). Moreover, I am not sure if the drive teeth are different (this could be a problem when trying to match up with a 12v starter). My trucks/engines/tansmission are in "hibernation" and I am not sure that I can easily get a look at my '54 Hydramatic parts.
Are all your grounding straps in place and are they the appropriate size for 6v?
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#91118 11/15/2002 8:50 PM | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 504 Member | | Member Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 504 | Bob, When you say " obvious steps " does that include changing the positive and negative battery cables to size 2/0 cable ?
Go to a heavy truck parts dealer. Most of them can cut cable to length and crimp the proper terminals on that size cable ..
Add to that a new grounding cable from the frame to the engine block and I think your cranking woes will be history..
I have installed those cables on my Hydramatic as well as on a 6 volt GMC owned by another Stovebolter. The starters on both trucks spin like crazy now..
Bill M 53 GMC Hydra-Matic
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#91119 11/16/2002 6:37 PM | Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 427 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 427 | I'll attest to that! Bill put those two-ott cables on my truck and I gotta tell ya, when I hit the starter button, the truck flips over six times and then the starter spins at about 300 RPM. HUGE difference. I don't profess to understand electrons, but I'm told that 6V wiring needs to be twice the guage of 12V wiring to carry the electrons properly. It's all greek to me but I do know my 6V 51 year old GMC spins at the same starter rpm as my 12V '02 GMC now. Before it just went; Ahhhhrungh.....ahhhhhrrrrungh....ahhhhhhrungh.
Now it goes Nyung-nyung-nyung and a 'nyung' is better than a 'ahhhhrungh' any day.
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#91120 11/16/2002 7:14 PM | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 504 Member | | Member Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 504 | Couldn't have said it better myself..
Bill M 53 GMC Hydra-Matic
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#91121 11/16/2002 10:19 PM | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 12 | I just bought an 8volt battery for my 53 i am hoping this will fix my problem maybe yours also. | | |
#91122 11/17/2002 7:01 AM | | Anonymous Unregistered | | Anonymous Unregistered | 8 volts is near the danger point when it comes to what the original radio & fuel gauge can take. The 6 volt system is bullets if everything is in order. Ya gotta have a good battery to start with . I always use a dry cell 6 Volt Optima battery it has twice the CCA of a wet lead acid & about the size of 3 beer cans [ just my own measuring system ] Most slow crank problems in the starter itself [ ru ru ru ru ] in Kook language are caused by bad field coils. Dont forget the 6 volt system is heavily dependent on good grounds. The grounds are as important as the hot connections. I use the braided copper ground cable from the bell housing to the frame & a #1 ground cable from the - battery to the frame along with a smaller braided ground cable from the frame to the firewall. I grind all the frame & firewall ground surfaces to bare metal & slather dielectric grease on them, all grounding terminals are made with stainless steel hardware. | | |
#91123 11/25/2002 12:07 AM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3 | Originally posted by Bob P.: My 54 Chev 1/2 ton is equipped with a factoy installed Hydramatic transmission. It has been a hard starter every since I rebuilt the truck about 8 years ago. I have gone through all the obvious steps to check out the starting system but never found anything that made much of an improvemet. I am considering converting the starting/chagring system to 12 volts. What is involved in making the conversion?
Bob Peterson
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#91124 11/25/2002 12:09 AM | Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 3 | Thanks for the responses to my original question. I have completed the conversion from 6V to 12V and am quite happy with the results. No more starting problems and I have super headlights.
Bob P.
Bob Peterson
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