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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,781 Posts1,039,297 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 | I was out driving this weekend and my truck just stopped. engine died, no back fire no chuga chuga. I opened the hood and all looked well, jiggled all the wire and checked the points. started back up and made it home.Yesterday afternoo I decieded to look at it again, wouldnt start. checked the usual stuff and nothing. last thing was to run a wire from the starter motor to the coil side of the ballast resister. started fine but died when the started dropped. ran a jumper around the resister and it ran ok . checked my connections and started without the jumper. But it has a miss at 1800 + and seems weak on power. Today will meter the vtg on resister and try a dwell meter for points. any other things to look for ? this is a 235 stock 57/58 engine. | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 | Maybe just try and clean and retighten any electrical connections. See if that helps.
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| | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 | I looked at the wiring this am. Recrimped or replaced the connectors on that area. at idle i have 14.0 + - vts at input to resister, it drops about 2 vts across it . dwell holds steady at 30. still has a miss as the revs come up and a slight stutter when hels a 2k rpm. with a jumper across the resister it smoothes out. Looking around the garage for a old one to swap. | | | | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,112 | I don't think a resistor is going to change value with the change in RPM. You could have a coil problem though. | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 | I thought coil, This one was on the truck when i got it. probably time for a new one. Is there a differance from v8 and i6 coils? I see two pn in the accel book. would watery gas cause this? we have been real wet last month. | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 | Change the points and gap them properly. Jerry
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| | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 | The points are about a year old age wise and have about 100 mi on them. would they go out that quick? and is 30 deg the right dwell? the gap is 16 th . If i have to order the coil will ord them also. I wonder if the resist could be rusted inside. | | | | Joined: May 2012 Posts: 19 New Guy | New Guy Joined: May 2012 Posts: 19 | Dwell is what matters. It describes how long the coil charges or rises before collapse (which causes the spark in the secondary winding).
Gap is just another way to get to correct dwell. It's given as a spec because it's far more likely for the home mechanic (farmer?) to have a feeler guage than a dwell meter.
That your miss goes away when you bypass the resistor makes me think the coil is not getting enough current at that rpm to do its job. Maybe it has too low of a primary resistance?
Might get yelled at for this, but. . . bypass the resistor and drive it around for a week and see how it goes. The only potential cost to you is points burning up quicker.
Jason | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 | Checked the dwell , its 30 and stays steady up to 3k. pulled the resister and dont see any rust., coil looks like it has seen better days.Will stop while in town and see if they have one. May pull the top of carb and look at the water level. | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 | New coil, rewired the coil to dist and resister to coil . still has a stutter starting around 1200 rpm . looked in side carb and nice clean fuel. Dont see/hear any vac leaks. Stumped... sympathy and suggestions appreciated | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | sympathy offered  have you made sure both the vacuum and centrifugal advances are working properly? cleaned the points contact surfaces? only 100 miles in a year makes for oxidized surfaces on electrical contacts, especially in a humid climate Bill | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 | Yes, We were real humid last month. somewhere i have a point file . Will give that a try in a m . I opened the rad cap and saw foamy water, pulled the plugs and they all look nice ran a quick comp test and 125 on all cyl. no water in oil or coming out sparkplug hole. I can see the vac adv work and the cent moves freely by hand. inside dist is clean with no arc marks no shaft wobble. | | | | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | better to use something finer than a point file on the points, like a business card or match book cardboard
foamy water .... might want to find out why, just cuz there's no apparent water in the oil doesn't mean there's no oil in the water
Bill | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 365 | Cleaned and gapped the points. 31 deg on dwell no improvement, so I tried my timing light and it was way off . brought it to the bb and all is well  guess i wasnt that good with the static adj. Thanks to all for the support. | | |
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