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OK I have a 1949 3600 I am trying to get back on the road. I got it running like a top....but the brakes are MIA.

No, absolutely no pedal feel. I pulled all the drums and cleaned up the bleeders. Pads look good except for the passenger side rear, where the pads fell off the shoe.

Any advice on how to proceed? I hate to stick a ton of money in it, as I will likely swap out the rear end and install IFS with the next 6-8 months, and I will not be driving it in the winter anyway. That being said it needs to be safe regardless.

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The first thing to do is check for leaks in all four brake cylinders and along every brake line. Then bleed the system carefully. (Bleeding is a two person job.)

Start with the left front brake (closest to the master cylinder), then the right front. Once those are properly bled, do the rears.

If the fluid is brown or dark brown in color, it would be best to flush the system, because there's rust in the fluid, indicating that water got into the system. Every line and cylinder (including the master cylinder) will need to be cleaned until nothing but clear fluid comes through them.

If! there's no leaks in any of the brake cylinders or lines and bleeding did no good, it's probably the master cylinder. Usually what happens to them is the piston wears in the bore and the fluid bypasses between the piston and bore, so the pressure is reduced enough to make the pedal feel mushy or collapse to the floor when depressed. And the seals wear out exacerbating the problem.

You can rebuild them but it's probably easier to buy a new one.

The first thing I would do is loosen (don't remove!) the line(s) coming from the master cylinder and have someone gently push the brake pedal (by hand is fine.) If fluid is not coming out in a steady stream, the master cylinder is likely bad.

It could also be a mechanical problem, although that's less likely. Have someone depress the pedal and see if the linkage is causing the plunger to move.

Even if you have to buy a new one, you won't be spending more than $100. Kit's cost around $35 or $40, but you've also have to own the hone. If you don't, that's probably another $15 or $20.

You can get one at American Classic or Jim Carter, two of our sponsors.

They both have repair kits, but you'd need to call them. Their websites don't say if they fit your master cylinder.[color:#FF0000][/color]


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If you follow Paul's advice, and still no pedal, be sure to adjust the brake shoes, as described in the manual. If the pads fell off a shoe, you can't possibly have the correct adjustment, so get that fixed. If the pads are worn (or missing, as in this case) you are taking up the "slack" with the pedal, and the pedal will go to the floor, without engaging the shoes with the drums enough to stop.

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I have a 1950 3600 so pretty much the same brakes. I just finished mine. You might want to look at the manual also. If you have the orginal 'huck' style brakes, make sure you remove the shoes and ALL the pins and anchors, clean up EVERYTHING and reinstall using some anti sieze. Everything should move free. Also, like suggested above, make sure the wheel cylinders are not leaking. I put a kit in mine. Brake parts (expecially rear) are not easy to come by for our trucks. Be careful if you have the drums truned. I have a spare set of shoes and just have them re-lined. I also used a new master cylinder and no problems. Make sure you adjust the parking brake correctly also. There's an ecentric (spelling) bolt that the parking brake arm pivots on. It must also be ajusted right.

Here's the link to the manual. Hope this helps.

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Thanks for the help guys. I will pass on what I find.


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The cap on the master cyclnder is seized.....I will be buying a new one.


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New master cylinder I assume. Was looking at your pics. Brings back memories. Our trucks are very similar. You might want to clean and re-pack the wheel bearings while you are at it. Also, use plenty of anti-seize on the pins so the brake shoes can move without binding and the adjusters move easy. Enjoy!


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Beautiful truck David.....it is pretty similar to ours.



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Thanks. You can get pretty attached to these old trucks. BUT you do have to twist a wrench every now and then. Looks like you have some help in your family. That will make a long lasting impression.

AND, this is a great site for info and help.

Enjoy and keep us posted.

PS, I think I spent a week one night in North Dakota..

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