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Jul 21st, 2025 | | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 253 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 253 | With the split ring Budd wheels there is always some saftey concern with mounting new rubber but I was wondering if anyone has ever welded the ring on perminently and then levered the tires over it the same way you would with a one piece wheel?
I'm thinking there is probably a lot of good reasons not to but I'm not thinking of any of them at the moment. Is this a bad idea?
All input and "are you crazy" comments welcome.
-Mike-
1945 Chevrolet G 506 1.5 Ton Military 4X4
1967 Jeep Cj5 with 283 SBC
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 173 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 173 | I asked my tire shop this question and they responded that tires for these wheels have a rather significant steel band/ring in them that prevents this. I'm sure someone with some first hand knowledge will pipe up soon.
Scott
1947, 1950, & 1952 Chevrolet 1/2 ton
1952 GMC 450 series Cab Over Engine
1946 Chevrolet 2 Ton
| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,675 | It would be impossible to get the tire onto the wheel with the ring welded on. On single-piece rims, there has to be a drop center section to let the tire bead drop into that area while it is being pried over the rim. The center of a split ring wheel is straight- - - -no dropped center, and no way to get the tire on without removing one bead ring. Drop-center rims have to be larger diameter to clear the brake drums. A 22.5" tubeless tire on a drop-center rim is the same overall height as a straight-wheel 20" tire. The extra 2.5" of bead diameter in the tire helps it slide over the rim and into the dropped center section.
Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 253 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 253 | Yep that makes sense. I've changed my own motorcycle tires for years taking advantage of that very drop center! I knew I must be missing something here and that was it, the flat center on the Budd wheels, plain as day but I didn't make the connection!
-Mike-
1945 Chevrolet G 506 1.5 Ton Military 4X4
1967 Jeep Cj5 with 283 SBC
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