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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,776 Posts1,039,271 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 73 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 73 | Went to local Home Depot, they were clearing out some Crescent Adjustable Wrenches. Took a closer look, they were make in China! Went to Lowes, they had a few USA made and the new ones were made in China. So sad ...
Wayne S. Colorado Springs, CO
| | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 273 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 273 | We call a crescent wrench a "Redneck Socket Set".  Crescents are only good for ultra-light work anyway, so it doesn't matter if they're made "here" or "there", and they should last a few years if ya don't try and use 'em for "heavier" stuff like ya would a good quality open-end, box-end, or socket. JMO | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 273 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 273 | I guess I should tell that to the 70yr old Cresent wrench I have in my garage. WOW! Now THAT'S quality!! | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,383 Ex Hall Monitor | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,383 | The Crescent wrenches I have aren't 70 years old but they all are over 40 for sure.
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| | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | A little history of the Company from Wiki; History of The Crescent Tool Company The Crescent Tool Company was founded in Jamestown, New York, by Karl Peterson and Edward J. Worcester in 1907. It is considered "one of the crown jewels of Jamestown's industry".[3] The company soon became known for its adjustable wrenches.[3] In 1927, Charles Lindberg, for tools brought only pliers and a Crescent brand wrench on his famous solo flight across the Atlantic.[4] In fact, Lindberg said that he brought only "gasoline, sandwiches, a bottle of water, and a Crescent wrench and pliers".[5] Also, there was a rumor that Richard Evelyn Byrd, on his initial journey to Alaska, had a Crescent wrench in his provisions.[3] An 1857 patent by Edward J. Worcester is a progenitor of modern adjustable wrenches.[6] The Swedish company Bahco and inventor Johan Petter Johansson are also credited with the design of modern adjustable wrenches. The Crescent Tool Company was acquired by a group of investors in 1960 after Marvin Peterson, Karl's son, sold it.[4] The company was renamed the Crescent Niagara Corporation. In 1968, Crescent Niagara was acquired by Cooper Industries. In 2010, the tool divisions of Cooper Industries and Danaher Corporation formed a joint venture, Apex Tool Group, LLC. The brand is currently owned by Apex Brands, Inc. the intellectual property entity of Apex Tool Group.[7] I’m seventy and this was my dad from before I was born so it has to date back to the 30’s when he was working as a mechanic: http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/141443683/large It still has tight machined jaws very, very little slop in them. And turns very smoothly with no binding throughout the range. Nope, they don’t make them like they used to! Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 | Always a wealth of knowledge, Denny. Do you sleep with a World Book Encyclopedia? LOL | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | No, a Dell. And I only sleep four hours a day. dg
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 583 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 583 | I've inherited a lot of tools from relatives over the years. Most of them are 50-100 years old. I still use them. When I do, I get that warm feeling that my relative is still on the job. They range from garden tools to tool and die tools. Use them all. My kids are going to have quite an inheritance in tools.
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| | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | I like the old Crescent wrenches and have a bunch. Every now and then there's an occasion where a Crescent wrench is the better option. For a new adjustable wrench I recently did a lot of research looking for a good 6" one to carry in my pocket as I've done for probably 14 years now. Martin Tools has the best in my opinion and also have very good prices although that wasn't even a factor in the decision. https://www.stovebolt.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=664351#Post664351http://www.martintools.net/Grigg | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,775 | I have one made by the Diamond Calk Horseshoe Co. out of Duluth, Minn. I don't know how old it is, but there's no comparison between it and the "new" Crescent sitting next to it. | | | | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 640 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 640 | I keep this one in my pocket in case a nut loosens up. My Crescent | | | | Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 149 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 149 | i also have adiamond calk horse shoe,made in deluth minn.inherted from my fatherinlaw.it probly weith haft again as much as my 18 cresent made in jamestown.i should have said it is 18" | | | | Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 51 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 51 | American made crescent always at your local pawn shop you can thank your local sticky fingered crack head . | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 | I keep this one in my pocket in case a nut loosens up. My Crescent I had to read this twice as I thought he was refering to something else! 
Bruce | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 | I tried to buy one up here but they only came in metric.......! | | | | Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 818 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 818 | i grew up in new zealand there( cresent)is the standard name for a adjustable wrench i have lived in australia for over 30 years here they call them shifters we are getting all the chinese junk as well
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| | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 273 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 273 | I tried to buy one up here but they only came in metric.......! I just bought a metric pipe wrench.  | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! | "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 | A set of metric screwdrivers would be nice!! | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 273 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 273 | Left-handed or right-handed?
| | | | Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 73 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 73 | I see Craftsman beam style torque wrenches are now coming out of China too. Before you start, yes some people do still like the old beam style torque wrenches.
Wayne S. Colorado Springs, CO
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 | I see Craftsman beam style torque wrenches are now coming out of China too. Before you start, yes some people do still like the old beam style torque wrenches. Yep. Still have my very first torque wrench bought as a teen. Craftsman Beam Torque Wrench. It may not be quite as accurate now from use, but it's cool anyway.It took me a long time to save up for my SnapOn torque wrench. Don't care much for the digital type.
Drew
| | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Since this thread isn’t dead yet, I’ll repost this, which somehow got posted in disappearing ink last year. A little history of the Company compliments of Wiki; History of The Crescent Tool Company The Crescent Tool Company was founded in Jamestown, New York, by Karl Peterson and Edward J. Worcester in 1907. It is considered "one of the crown jewels of Jamestown's industry" The company soon became known for its adjustable wrenches. In 1927, Charles Lindberg, for tools brought only pliers and a Crescent brand wrench on his famous solo flight across the Atlantic. In fact, Lindberg said that he brought only "gasoline, sandwiches, a bottle of water, and a Crescent wrench and pliers". Also, there was a rumor that Richard Evelyn Byrd, on his initial journey to Alaska, had a Crescent wrench in his provisions. An 1857 patent by Edward J. Worcester is a progenitor of modern adjustable wrenches. The Swedish company Bahco and inventor Johan Petter Johansson are also credited with the design of modern adjustable wrenches. The Crescent Tool Company was acquired by a group of investors in 1960 after Marvin Peterson, Karl's son, sold it. The company was renamed the Crescent Niagara Corporation. In 1968, Crescent Niagara was acquired by Cooper Industries. In 2010, the tool divisions of Cooper Industries and Danaher Corporation formed a joint venture, Apex Tool Group, LLC. The brand is currently owned by Apex Brands, Inc. the intellectual property entity of Apex Tool Group. I’m seventy and this was my dad’s from before I was born so it has to date back to the 30’s when he was working as a mechanic: http://www.pbase.com/dennygraham/image/141443683/large It’s a heavy 15” and it still has tight-machined jaws very, very little slop in them. And turns very smoothly with no binding throughout the full range. Nope………..they sure don’t make them like they used to in the US of A! Lets see ya top that China! Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | when do you use a crescent wrench Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | If you mean lately Fred, not very often. But in my productive years, that 15" came in handy whenever I didn't have a wrench handy that was big enough. The old ones like the one in my picture were actually machined to fairly close tollerences and the jaws didn't spring or flop around like the later junk. Used the great Creskin' a lot when I was welding for a living, changed a lot of bottles and still have one hanging on each of my machines to this day.
DG
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,185 Moderator | Moderator Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,185 | We've all heard about the metric adjustable wrenches, mine says 300 mm on one side and 12" on the other side. So I can use whatever I like. | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 719 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 719 | I use a 200mm Crescent I've had for years, and my dad years before that, when I'm doing valves on the old air cooled VW's. Dunno about this low torque jobs talk, I've put a pipe on it to break off nuts that were tight enough to shatter my breaker bar and never had an issue. What I really notice between the old US made and the new Chinese versions, the slop in the movable jaw. Too much wobble makes it easier to slip off and round a bolt/nut. When my beat up 40 some odd year old Crescent still has tighter clearances than the "new" crap off the shelf, something is seriously wrong. 1956 GMC 370 dump " 'Tater "1970 VW Volksrod "the Black Bomber" 2007 Chevy Avalanche 2020 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk, 2005 Harley Davidson FLHTCUI I dig all cars, old and new, whether they were hammered out of American iron, German steel, or Japanese tin cans. Being unable to appreciate them all is missing out on a world of great things. But thats just MY opinion! :P
| | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Most of the crappy stuff that is coming out of the Far East is made straight from castings, extrusions and forgings with out any machine work being done to them. In order to make sure all the parts will fit together they have to allow really large tolerances and the parts. They come of the press or out of the die right to the plating operation often without even being deburred then slap them together. The old tools like the Crescent wrenches were machined to close tolerances after rough forming. Quick and dirty is the name of the game today, we're seeing it in about every phase of our lives. Problem is, the vast majority of the younger generation never knew what it was to have quality items in their hands. Result is that they have nothing to compare the items they are buying to. Us old timers have seen the best and I myself experience several disappointments each and every week. The tools are cheaper, most of the wood we find at the lumber yard would have been fire wood years ago, the clothes are poorly made (Levi’s) don’t fit right and fall apart before their time, the guns are made from cheap plastic and sold for high prices (Daisy), (Glock), compare the cheap tinfoil Toastmaster of today to the die-formed Toastmaster from the 50’s, except for a few things everything you drink today comes in thinner and thinner plastic bottles, garden tools and tractors had forged and cast parts like axles and frames where today pressed tin is the norm, Years ago I put a ten dollar bill on the counter after a doctor visit and felt like I’d been helped, today I have to leave the deed to my house on the counter and leave feeling like I’ve been stuck in the xxx.without a kiss. Oh lets not forget the “Protection Plan”, when I was a kid you bought a tool and it was guaranteed, now you have to buy a protection plan because you just know it’s “guaranteed” to break down. But….. the business tycoons are making record profits now days,… for a while that is, until their house of card comes crashing down.
Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
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Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | Denny, you should write a book. I feel the same way. I went to a friends house this morning to help him with a problem. He has his tools laying out and....yep, cheap stuff that I would NEVER buy. Like you say, he simply does not know any better...so I took the oportunity to give him some lessons. Its not like he doesn't have the money....he don't know how to buy tools and listens to the SALES PITCH.
Its simply sad | | | | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 Bolter | Bolter Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,066 | where can I buy a good Monkey wrench this song will tell it all
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Redryder pixMy HotrodA veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of "up to and including my life."I am fighting cancer and I am winning the fight | Pain is part of life; misery is an option. | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | And Fred my man, they don't make them like Mr. Haggard any more either. I could listen to him and what he has to say all day, sure beats all to ell what they're sellin' as country now days.
Denny Graham Somewhere north of Sandwich, IL
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,597 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,597 | Klein makes some really nice general and specialty tools, all in the good ol USA! And to the first person to comment on well they are expensive, please report to the Port of Los Angeles your boat is leaving. www.kleintools.com/ | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! | "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 | Klein was the tool of choice when I was a lineman in a different life! | | | | Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 719 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 719 | Hey now, I carried a Glock for many years, rock solid weapon and have yet to personaly meet anyone that has had one fail or jam (quite a few considering my hometown PD switched to them in the early 90's). And now, after all the abuse and jokes, several manufacturers are trying to copy it. Just sayin,...
On the topic of quality tools available now, todays young workers are learning, it depends on the field of course, but people that earn their money with tools learn pretty quickly. I work on aircraft for a living, and some of the tools I use every day can be had for a few bucks at Harbor Freight, or a bit more at Sears or Home Depot, and for occasional use they might even hold up. But the use my tools see,... Better to pay more up front than to have your tool/s grenade in the middle of a big job. Even the used stuff costs a lot, pneumatic tools can be a killer. What is kind of interesting, Chicago Pneumatic makes the super cheap stuff for Harbor Freight, but they have a industrial branch that makes much better but high dollar tools as well, same with CH air tools. Just sucks that those are made in China too. 1956 GMC 370 dump " 'Tater "1970 VW Volksrod "the Black Bomber" 2007 Chevy Avalanche 2020 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk, 2005 Harley Davidson FLHTCUI I dig all cars, old and new, whether they were hammered out of American iron, German steel, or Japanese tin cans. Being unable to appreciate them all is missing out on a world of great things. But thats just MY opinion! :P
| | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Not really knocking the Glock, I'm not a gun guy my self, but I heard an interview with the guy that wrote the book "Glock, The Rise of America's Gun". Really interesting how it was marketed to the police forces here in the states. It was a cheap weapon to produce but with all the hype it gave them an opportunity to bump the price and therefor the profits way up there. New models offered with generous trade in policy put a lot of used Glocks out to the general public where they could bump the price up even more because it was "the weapon of choice for law enforcement. Reliable, accurate, lightweight it was, but it was still a cheap weapon compaired to the old Smith and Wesson revolver that was standard issue for most of the 20's century. Never knew Chicago Pneumatic made Harbor Freight's air tools, where did you hear that??? The carry the name of Central Pneumatic and almost every one of them I've ever had gave me nothing but headachs. I've been suckered in a bunch of times by the cheap prices for them, always on sale for $9.995 to $19.95 so how can you go wrong, right???? You go wrong in the way you spend more time taking them apart and trying to get them to work than you do using them. Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
Denny G Sandwich, IL
| | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 231 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 231 | I went to Lowe's to look for an Estwing (sp) hammer, made in the US. All they had was Chi-Com hammers. My neighbor is blind in the left eye from using one of those Chi-Com hammers. I wanted to support a North Carolina company as I feel compelled to do that when I can as I draw a retirement check from the State Government, and it benefits me in the long run that my retirement plan is funded, plus it keeps my fellow Tar-Heelers working! I went to Sears and they had the Estwing. I was pleasantly surprised when I went to look at Shop-Vacs at Lowe's Saturday and they (The Shop-Vac brand) is made in the USA. I know it is nearly impossible to buy American stuff anymore, but when I have a choice, and even if it is more expensive I will always buy American. Call me a hopeless romantic, but I actually believe that I live in a place that is worth salvaging. My working days are over, but I have kids that will need jobs for the next 30 years or so. 1963 Chevy C-10 Fleetside 2010 Chevy HHR SS GONE, NOT FORGETTEN 2003 GMC Z71 2016 Silverado High Country 2500 Diesel 2012 Chevy Camero SS Convertible 2012 Indian Chief Vintage serial #002 motorcycle 2016 Indian Chief Roadmaster | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,597 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,597 | Home Depot sells the Estwing brand and several other made in the U.S.A. tool brands so you have choices there. Beautiful hammers and you can pass them on to your kids as they last forever! | | | | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 240 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 240 | If you still want "USA" made adjustable wrenches Epstein Tool has then in 10" 12" marken with their logo for around $20 and an 18" with no brand for $47 the only markings on the 18" was WF Western Forge. Good solid wrenches. The smaller ones have "epsteintool.com on one side"
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| | | | Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 893 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 893 | I found a adjustable wrench in my stuff, that had a diamond shape marking with NYE stamped inside of it, made in Chicago IL.. I also got a couple of those Diamond Calk Horseshoe wrenches from Duluth Minn.
Brian 1955.2 3100 Truck The older I get the more dangerous I am!!!!! | | | | Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 893 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 893 | Just come across another adjustable wrench in my tool box, with WILLIAMS made in USA stamped on it.
Brian 1955.2 3100 Truck The older I get the more dangerous I am!!!!! | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | Williams are nice ones, and can still get them today. One notable feature of Williams is the tang on the movable jaw is not fully round like most or all other brands are. the Williams have square shoulders on top of that tang, not being round it doesn't try to spread the slot it fits in while in use. Not that I've noticed that as a problem on other wrenches though.... | | |
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