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#84138 10/12/2007 3:11 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 3 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 3 | Hi everyone,
It's been awhile since I was here, but it's also been awhile since I've looked at my project. I finally found the parts I've been searching for over 2 years for.
Anyway my question is, do the U-bolts that hold the rear axle assembly to the trailing arms come out without torching them? I penetrating oiled the heck out of them. I tried with an impact, a breaker bar and pipe, and heating the nuts with a torch and turning with an impact. I got one to come all the way to the end of the threads and stop, and another to just start loosening. I had the nuts glowing red hot, and they still don't want to come off.
I bought a 1972 C10 chassis, and want to swap the rear end into my 1966 C10. I don't have a problem with buying two new U-Bolts for my 1966. I intended to anyway. But at $15.00 to $20.00 each, I'd like to save two old ones so I can put the 1966 rear end back into the 1972 frame to be able to roll it around. It seems a waste to put $30.00 to $40.00 into a frame I have no use for.
Thanks for any tips and/or advice you can offer. I've never had nuts/bolts this stubborn before, and these aren't even rusty.
Thanks, Tom | | |
#84140 10/12/2007 3:51 AM | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,878 . | | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,878 | As a general rule they don't like to come off in one piece.
U bolts and the nuts should not be reused to start with. I have not read anywhere that it's OK to reuse then, and I have read plenty of places that once removed they should be discarded and new installed.
In your case they are being stubborn, that makes the decision easier to throw them away and buy new, the safe choice.
Grigg | | |
#84141 10/12/2007 4:28 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 3 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 3 | Thanks guys.
Yes, the breaker bar is a Snap-On, so it is under warranty. However, I certainly don't want to bend it like you said may happen. That thought never crossed my mind, next time I'll use a cheaper breaker bar in case I do bend it.
I may try splitting the nuts, that never crossed my mind to try. Thanks for the tip.
I don't intend to reuse the bolts and nuts for anything other than making the 1972 frame roll so it's easy to move. I plan to buy new ones for my 1966 frame, but hate the thought of throwing $30.00 or $40.00 away to make a frame I have no use for rollable.
Thanks again, Tom | | |
#84142 10/12/2007 3:25 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,868 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,868 | Most tool distributors sell a nut splitter that makes the job a lot easier. It's a device that fits around the nut, and drives a wedge into the side of the nut with a jack screw. I've used one for a lot of years on shock absorber nuts and exhaust pipe clamps. Running a die down over the U bolt threads should allow you to re-use the bolts, particularly if you don't intend to put the vehicle back on the road. Jerry
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#84143 10/12/2007 4:03 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | Sometimes I like to drill down the side of the nut and then use the chisel. | | |
#84144 10/12/2007 9:31 PM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 3 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: May 2006 Posts: 3 | Thanks again for the tips guys. I'll give it a try tomorrow, and post how it turns out here. I appreciate you all taking the time to read and respond.
Thanks, Tom | | |
#84145 10/12/2007 11:52 PM | Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,859 Grumpy old guy playing with trucks, cars, and boats | | Grumpy old guy playing with trucks, cars, and boats Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,859 |
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#84146 10/13/2007 3:03 AM | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 117 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 117 | I'm having the exact same problem with my 57... I have all 8 nuts off (3 BROKE off.lol) On the rear u-bolts, I am going to try to use my die grinder on them and see if I can get them to slide down through the top. I can't believe they are this rusted! Dano
my truck gets better every day...every PAYDAY | | |
#84147 10/14/2007 5:02 AM | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 117 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 117 | I got my rear u-bolts and shackles apart today! Here's my reply in the other thread I started: http://www.stovebolt.com/bboard/cgi-bin//ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=014764 Happy bolting! Dano
my truck gets better every day...every PAYDAY | | |
#84148 10/14/2007 9:33 AM | Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4 | Maybe grind through the u-bolt on both sides of the u so there is basically two staight pieces of bolt with the u section removed. Then beat the bolt backwards through the trailing arm. Not sure that works for you but it did for me. Seems like a lot of my projects that should leave behind good leftover parts turn into projects that leave behind good leftover scrap metal. I have been building piles of good leftover scrap metal for ahwile now and it gets easier to accept as time goes by. GOOD LUCK, JoeG. | | |
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