cornerwindows, thanks or your reply! I have seen all the hamb pics, like always the hamb is great! but I am looking for frame pics or info for 1/2 ton pickup style I think a 63 long bed may work. they are close to flat with ifs and I can get disc brake setup and lowering kit easy for them .and not everybody wants the long bed trucks.so cost should be fairly low for the frame.and I want to do a longer bed for the right look.