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#79962 07/12/2007 5:57 PM | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 Apprentice | | Apprentice Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 | I have the stock 3 on the tree tranny and my questions is about first and second gear. First whines pretty loud (I know there is not why to explain how loud), second is about half as loud, and third is quiet - is this normal? I have always thought it was until someone pointed out to me to tell me that they thought it wasn’t. I have clean fluid and it shifts well.
Thanks for any comments!
1950 AD Chevy 235 - 3 on the tree - straight pipe & cherry bomb - baaaam bam bam bam bam I am no mechanic, but I am going to try on this one!
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#79963 07/12/2007 8:33 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,771 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,771 | There will be some gear noise in the reduced-speed gears (1/2/Rev.) but if it's really sounding off, it sounds like the needle bearings on the cluster gear are gone. Even though the cluster gear turns all the time, if it's not transmitting power, it will run quiet. Anytime power is moving from the input shaft, through the cluster gear, and back to the output shaft through 1st. or 2nd. gear, the cluster gear bearings will be loaded. If they're damaged or a few needle bearings are missing, they will be noisy. Jerry
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#79964 07/12/2007 9:22 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | HRL is right. A little noise in the lower gears is normal in those but if it is excessive you have a bad brg. I usually find it,s the front drive brg. It can be inspected & replaced without tearing down the trans. Pull the front retainer, spray a little brakecleener on it & with a strong light inspect the inner & outer races & the balls for any pits or scoreing. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#79965 07/13/2007 12:49 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,771 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,771 | Wrenchbender, wouldn't the input shaft bearing make noise in all the gears, including 3rd.? It's a good idea to replace that one while he's got the tranny torn down, along with all the other small parts, though. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
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#79966 07/13/2007 9:11 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Not nessesarily. It,s like you said it,s going around but there is no pressure on it unless you are driving through the countershaft. Mambo has over 100 years of experience helping him here. I like your handle Mambo. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#79967 07/13/2007 10:56 PM | Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 Apprentice | | Apprentice Joined: May 2007 Posts: 25 | Thank you for all the suggestions. It sounds like I do have an issue with the bearing. I am not even a shade-tree mechanic, more like a small bush mechanic - so my best bet is to have it gone through once and for all.
I am sorry that I don’t have have pic’s yet posted. I have read here for 5 years waiting for the truck to get painted. Will do that soon.
Thanks again - oh, and Wrenchbender - another Italian huh?
1950 AD Chevy 235 - 3 on the tree - straight pipe & cherry bomb - baaaam bam bam bam bam I am no mechanic, but I am going to try on this one!
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#79968 07/14/2007 11:25 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Not really Italian. See the post "ethnic background" in the Greasy Spoon section. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
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