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#78838 06/15/2007 6:43 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 26 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 26 | Just trying to confirm. I have a '56 235 in my otherwise original '46 1 Ton Panel; real smoky, whole engine needs rebuilding. Can I instead find a full pressure 235 that had a high side cover so that I can put on an old 216 side cover and valve cover to make a 216-looking high pressure 235? Or were all high side cover 235s babbitt? Did anyone ever modify a high 216 side cover to fit on a low side cover 235. Would I be the only one fooled here? Maybe the best I can do is the 216 valve cover only. Any ideas? | | |
#78839 06/15/2007 9:38 PM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | The block and head on a low side 235 interferes with the 216 side cover, so if you wanted one you would probably have to modify the block or risk sealing issues.
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#78840 06/16/2007 12:16 AM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 637 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 637 | The 235's from '53 and before had a tall side cover, look just like the 216's. Only problem is they are all low pressure oil systems, but you can convert them to high pressure with the right stuff. | | |
#78841 06/16/2007 2:13 AM | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 2,074 | OR, modify the OLD and first 235 that came with a tall side cover, for full pressure oiling. Then it will look just like the original motor. You'll need a really good machinest friend to make the 55-62 drilled crank fit the old block and some plumbing mods. But, it's a lot of work and not cheap, plus compression will be much lower than a later 235. I'd keep that 56 235 and make it look stock, very few people will know the differance. | | |
#78842 06/16/2007 3:59 AM | Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 236 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 236 | Chevyman, I have a 51, 235. It does not have a tall side cover. Personally I have never seen a 235 with a tall side cover. | | |
#78843 06/16/2007 4:15 AM | Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 70 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 70 | My 49 has a 235 out of a 53 Belaire with a automatic tranny. It's a full pressure engine but looks like a 216 with the 2 bolts in the center of the valve cover. The water pump is already in the correct position for a pickup. No need for the adapter plate or the short water pump. Patrick's 2007 catalog has some good info. | | |
#78844 06/16/2007 12:47 PM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Fortyniner wins the prize, '53 auto w/automatic, first full pressure 235 but still had the old head and side cover. Denny G
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#78845 06/16/2007 1:52 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 26 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 26 | So, then is the '53 w/automatic the only full pressure non-babbit 235 with a high side cover? Hard to imagine it is just that one small group. And are there casting numbers, oil pan stamped 235, etc. to verify that's what you've got sitting there in the junkyard pile of engines? | | |
#78846 06/16/2007 2:36 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 684 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 684 | The casting numbers are avilable on the Inliner Site. It shows the '53-235 to be 3835846 Finding one would probably be like the needle in the hay stack. | | |
#78847 06/16/2007 2:43 PM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2 New Guy | New Guy Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2 | I have a high pressure 235 out of a 53 auto in my 52 Belair, it has the short side cover and the 2 bolts in the valve cover. I know that you can convert the later 4 screw valve cover heads ( 54 up ) to the 2 bolt but see no way to use the high side cover. Gary | | |
#78848 06/16/2007 3:51 PM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 | Chevrolet started using 235s with tall side covers in 1941 in there big trucks. In 1950 the same 235 introduced in the Powerglide passenger car was also the engine used in the big trucks, these engines had short side covers and were all low pressure engines.
There were no tall side cover, full pressure engines made.
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#78849 06/16/2007 3:54 PM | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 873 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 873 | To echo 46CPU and GEC52, All 1950 and up 235's used the short side cover that did not cover the head. | | |
#78850 06/16/2007 7:07 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 | Originally posted by 46Panel: Did anyone ever modify a high 216 side cover to fit on a low side cover 235. That might work if you spliced together the top half of an old 216 side cover with the lower half of a later one. It would still have the bulge on it for the oil line but might give the look you're after. Curt B.
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