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#77703 05/18/2007 3:29 AM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 13 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 13 | I have a 1950 3/4 ton truck with a 4 speed in it. The engine was swapped to 235. I have a 1948 1 ton rear end in it. My problem is it is wrapping all kinds of RPMs at 45 miles an hour. I cant get it up to 55 without the motor sounding like it will over rev and fly apart. I have the transmission that matches the rear end out of the 48 sitting on the shelf. I am wondering if I swap the transmission to the one that originally went with the rear end, would it give me a better ratio? Or was this rear end just not made for today's speeds? Thanks
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#77704 05/18/2007 3:39 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 275 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 275 | They are both direct drive in high gear. Doug | | |
#77705 05/18/2007 3:48 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | Going back to the 3/4 ton rear would help some (4.56 ratio compared to 5.13). Either way, they're not really meant for high speeds. The best bet would be to find a '67-'72 3/4 ton 3rd member with the 4.10 ratio. It's a bolt in for the current 3rd member.
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#77706 05/18/2007 4:35 AM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | Bill is right.
Your other option is an overdrive transmission like a T-5.
But really you are running stump pulling gears in the rear and that is where your problems starts.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | |
#77707 05/18/2007 3:25 PM | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | Don't you have to modify the drive shaft or have it reworked fot that swap Bill? That is the 67-72 3/4 ton pumpkin swap! Also, can you use a 3.something ring and pinion in that newer carrier??? I wouldn't know where to start but I sure wish we could pull all of this 3/4 ton rear info together into a complete tech tip since it comes up so often. Denny Graham Sandwich, IL
Denny G Sandwich, IL
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#77708 05/18/2007 4:08 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 707 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 707 | I just went through this whole thing. Had to shorten the driveshaft a little, and 4.10 is the highest road speed option, but I am completely satisfied with the results. Before: 5.14 final. 45mph = fastest sustainable cruise. Comfortable road speed was 35 - 40 mph. After: 4.10 final. Relaxed and comfortable at 50 - 55 mph, fastest sustainable = somewhere over 60 mph. BIIIIIG difference! This was a farm truck, now it's a road truck. 1951 3800 Be the change you want to see. -hotshoe
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#77709 05/18/2007 10:03 PM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 841 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 841 | you could just do what i do: drive slow and PO everyone behind you. it was the cheapest and easiest for me. | | |
#77710 05/19/2007 2:02 AM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,152 | Originally posted by Denny Graham: can you use a 3.something ring and pinion in that newer carrier??? I've heard that there is a 3.9 or 3.7 gearset available, but its rare and hard to find. It wasn't used very many years and was little used in those years. If I knew the details I'd share them. Some searching here is likely to turn up more information. What you are looking for is a late 60's early 70's C-20 with an automatic. Big block suburbans seem to me the most likely place to find them. It might be less trouble to swap rear axles.
1955 1st GMC Suburban | 1954 GMC 250 trailer puller project | 1954 GMC 250 Hydra-Matic | 1954 Chevy 3100 . 1947 Chevy COE | and more... It's true. I really don't do anything but browse the Internet looking for trouble... | | |
#77711 05/28/2007 7:23 PM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 13 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 13 | Thanks for the help fellows. I was making sure there was nothing I could bolt in that I already had on the shelf to make it better. I think I will drive it the way it is for now, but when I get a chance I will put a higher rear end in it.
"It ain't the years that hurt, its the mileage"
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