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#74143 03/02/2007 5:45 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 | Although I am not a big fan of oil additives I am intrigued by the Lucas product. Not for the crankcase but for an old 3 speed transmission. I was at a trade show last night and was talking to the Lucas rep. He told me some good stories but I still wonder if its just a 'snake oil' one. My biggest concern is the transmission and the front seal in the torque tube that keeps the trans oil in place. I put in an Okie assembly a few years back but still check the fluid level in the trans weekly. I just would not want to do anything that would compromise that seal. Has anyone tried the product? | | |
#74144 03/02/2007 6:54 PM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | I used it as an assembly lube when I had to do some repairs to my od 3 speed. Stuff works great for that. I'm currently using a roughly 70/30 mix of Lucas gear oil/oil supplimen in the tranny, shifts much better than before. It does leak a little, but it did that before with regular gear oil in it. I did use what was left in my S10, just to se if it would make any difference in performance/mileage. So far, no major difference.
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#74145 03/02/2007 7:02 PM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 83 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 83 | using it in our diesel fuel to lube injectors & pumps . the new fuels are so dry . | | |
#74146 03/02/2007 10:56 PM | Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 582 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 582 | I put it in my engine when I did the rebuild as a break-in oil supplement. Was recommended to do just that. http://community.webshots.com/user/geezer | | |
#74147 03/02/2007 11:15 PM | Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 | I have used Lucas oil both in the transmission and rear, before they were rebuilt. In the past years I have also used it in my 20+ old (since last rebuilt) late 235, during the super-hot summer months when driving on the freeway for hours.
It's the only additive that works, according to many truckers I have talked to. | | |
#74148 03/03/2007 12:05 AM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 | Been thinking about trying it, but haven't.
That display/demo set-up they use is pretty convincing. The oil with the Lucas treatment in it, sure pulls up and adheres to those gears alot better than without. | | |
#74149 03/03/2007 12:25 AM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 240 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 240 | Try a little in the steering box, it will drive like it has power steering. Lucas is the only additive that I will use.
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#74150 03/03/2007 12:38 AM | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 266 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 266 | I've used it in my 250 and mix it 4:1 (4 quarts 10W-40 to 1 quart Lucas). I noticed that it would build up oil pressure faster on cold starts and idle smoother that just straight motor oil. I was impressed with it and will keep running it when I rebuild my engine this summer. I've considered using it in my 3 spd, but would like to hear a little bit more about it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the bottle say that it is good to use in your rear end? | | |
#74151 03/03/2007 2:58 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 | | | |
#74152 03/03/2007 4:38 AM | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 266 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 266 | | | |
#74153 03/03/2007 4:51 AM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | Since retirement I have delivered parts for the local Advance Auto Parts Store and I can tell you that most shops swear by it. Its a little pricey but folks still buy it. A lot of the "walk in" people use it to. For me personally I use "additives" very sparingly and rely on good constant maintenance. However I do agree there is times it makes good sense to add some. I'm sure it helps but just never been one to do it. | | |
#74154 03/03/2007 5:05 AM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 22 Member | Member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 22 | I use that lucas in everything I have, what I have noticed is on hot days in tucson that oil pressure does not drop anywhere near than if I ran oil by itself. great stuff, eaven the fuel stuff works great. and the ps fluid stops small leaks.
if its not broke....you didn't drive it hard enough!
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#74155 03/03/2007 6:07 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 82 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 82 | Have used the oil additive for some time. Although it primarily makes me feel better, it does appear to help with oil pressure, in that it comes up to pressure quickly, is maintained and does not fall off to the extend that it did when I ran oil alone (Rotella 30W) in the warm Florida summers.
Pricey, but I think it worth it. I also use the Lucas lube as well on all of the suspension, which was all recently rebuilt. Have not tried it in the transmission, though. Would be interested in any other information about it in that application.
Richard 58 3104
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#74156 03/03/2007 6:36 AM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 202 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 202 | Lucas is very popular here in Oregon. I have used in the trans and in the engine. Definately not snake oil. Works very well. Many guys here run it in their trucks and cars and use it all the time. Especially hauling loads or pulling trailers and such. The best thing I have used is System 48 Plus. I have it in my Chevy truck and love it. Had it in my diesel 4x4 Suburban ( which I should have never sold) and it made it turn over faster plus super quiet running and quicker revving. Not a gimmick like many other things are. Even put it in my 94 Bravada with the 4.3 H.O. My friend Paul uses 48 Plus in his old 89 Caravan with the 3.0L Mitsubishi engine. Usually noisey top end and now super smooth and quiet even on the cold mornings. Use to clatter and had valve trane noise. Has 167K on his engine. Zippier too. Can be used in trannies and differentials. Its not Teflon. Its nice to know there are some things that really do work! H. | | |
#74157 03/03/2007 12:27 PM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 83 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 83 | not to confuse things but what about Marvel Mystery Oil ? seems like a good product , but where does it fit in ? | | |
#74158 03/03/2007 5:21 PM | Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 455 | MMO has been around since the 30s. It's a cleaner/lube fuel additive and helps against stuck valves and other top or head issues from age or too 'dry' fuel.
It also can be add to engine oil, but more as a cleaner. Rather the opposite to Lucas. | | |
#74159 03/03/2007 5:57 PM | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 327 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 327 | I'm using Rotella after reading the threads on what kind of oil to use because of the lack of certain additives in todays oils... I don't know if it made a difference no way to check I'm just going to change my oil every 2000 mile... Old blue Canadian tire has the Lucas on sale once in a while...
I was interested in what SPAREPARTS had to say about adding it to the steering box did it really make turning your truck easier??? | | |
#74160 03/03/2007 7:01 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 | I bought a bottle this morning but think I'll wait a bit before I put it in my trans. I don't know what the mix ration would be in that unit so will wait until some of the lube leaks out or drips. And I don't want to drain the trans. | | |
#74161 03/05/2007 4:47 AM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | oldblu49, as for "additive" to a transmission I may add that for Automatic's put a quart of 5-30 in it when you rebuild one. I have a friend who, along with his daddy, have built automatic's for over 40 years and has a super reputation. When I put my 700R4 in my 37 he advised met to put a quart in it. I questioned him on this and he informed me that EVERY tranny they did that the first quart that went in it was a quart in the torque converter...even when it was a bench job being picked up by customer. Long story short is that automatic fluid is mostly for keeping things clean with very little lubricant. The oil fills that need. Must work, they are considered the best around here. Let you know after I drive mine for about 20 years! | | |
#74162 03/05/2007 7:09 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,952 | Good point! I am planning to use it in a 56 year old 3 speed. I have more faith in this product than anything else on the market. Can't say I would put it in my crankcase though. I have an 81 Malibu with 500,000 kilometres on it and the engine has never been opened. I owe it to regular oil changes with a good motor oil. | | |
#74163 03/07/2007 8:27 PM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 83 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 83 | i bought a quart of lucas engine oil . it looks just like STP ( thick as honey ) . anyone know if it is it the same product ? | | |
#74164 03/08/2007 12:17 AM | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 202 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 202 | As far I have found out even though it looks like STP its not. Much better. I put in my rig in the oil and trans. Works great. STP just thickens the oil where Lucas coats all moving parts with a high strength film so nothing starts dry and helps handle high temps. STP is good for oil burners mainly but does not work like Lucas. As I mentioned in my last post most of the parts stores carry it and sell a bunch on it for trucks large and small and about anything else. Even the engine shops told me its a good product and not a gimmick. I hope this helps those who are wondering. H. | | |
#74165 03/08/2007 3:59 AM | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,317 Former Workshop Owner | Former Workshop Owner Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,317 | The name has a nice ring to it. I do use it in my sons car (rack & pinion power steering unit), it stopped leaking. John | | |
#74166 06/05/2007 6:48 AM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 61 Member | Member Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 61 | This is a late posting (found it via searching for power steering....of all things).
I have an old, old mechanical hack saw. Use Power Punch on it. PP is pretty much the same thing as Lucas. It sticks to the bar and I haven't had to add oil to it lately. Before, when using just gear oil, it would "dry" fairly quickly.
I've put Lucas additives in the Auto tranny in my Sable and in the power steering. Works as stated. I used their fuel additive in my semi's.
I've used PP grease on the steering of an old non power steering forklift. As stated w/ using Lucas, PP makes it turn a lot easier. The PP oil addative works also. Use it in engines, trannies and rear ends.
A lot more places are selling Lucas now..... before, it was just small shops. Saw an add in Schucks for it. Heck, I think Walmart even sells it now.
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