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I have a 1951 3100, I'm swaping the 216 for a 235 from a 56 car. I found out that i need to install a short water pump and pully. my question is what and where do get a fan blade for it???
thanks Dave J

There has been a lot of discusion on that in these threads lately. I believe the fix-de-jour is an adapter from Jim Carter's & use the old pump from the 216.

I got my short water pump from Patrick's in Casa Grande, Arizona.
I used a fan off a '60 car 235. That fan blade has more pitch to it and draws more air than the older style fans. I had to use a .75" fan spacer and moved the radiator forward .75". For the purists that don't like to more the radiator forward, .75" is hardly noticeable. I can idle ona 90 degree day without going over 180-185 degrees. I've been running this set up for 12 yrs. as a daily work truck.

Why was the 3/4" spacer needed? Fan to harmonic balancer interfearance? Thanks

The short shaft water pump was the way they were done before the adapter was invented. I have run several trucks that way. However, I have heard nothing but good about the adapter and if I had it to do again that's the way I'd go.

If you do go the short shaft route you can shorten it yourself and use a Ford 292 pulley. The asking price for a shortened one is ridiculous.

If you have your 216 water pump,that is the short shaft pump you use with the adapter plate that you can buy from Pre-68 Dave who participates in Stovebolt Forums. Just use your stock fan with the adapter set up. There will be plenty of clearance between it and the radiator.

I installed a 216 pump and adapter on my 235 and it works like a charm.The fan is in the center of the rad.and Pre-68 Dave gave me all the help I needed ,I didn't get instructions with my kit from Jim Carter ,after I called they did,but temp is 180 no mater the traffic and I can use a stock 216 pump that I can get at any FLAPS.

Pete

I wish the adapter was around when I put my 37 togather with the 57 235 as it would have made things easier.

I bought the adapter plate in case I ever need to change the motor. One detail that has not been mentioned here is to use the crankshaft pulley and the waterpump pulley from the 216, I believe. At some point the pulleys changed in diameter and mixing them can cause a problem. Maybe someone can add to this.

I do not recommend using the 1955-62 passenger balancer with this adapter, mainly because the extra RPMs from the larger diameter pulley can lead to fan cracking.

For those of you that are not familiar with the Water Pump Relocating plate here is a pic of Pre'68 Dave's on my '55 235. This is the first step in the process. Mount the plate and locate holes that need to be drilled.

http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL1061/3611363/23635594/394364044.jpg

Installation sheet for the water pump adapter

Part page Here