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| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 27 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 27 | Help!! I'm installing new glass and rubber on a 1952 3100 5-window. I ordered the rubber & chrome kit for the back and corners. So far, so good, right?... Yesterday, a fellow "Truck" guy started installing the glass for me (I was at work). Problems :-(
The rubber "tore" as he was installing it and he went downtown and picked up "other rubber" to use. The rubber is narrower than what I had ordered and it doesn't cover the spot welds very good, the seam in the corner windows are at the bottom center so they don't lay flat :-(
I'm going to have to remove and replace the rubber. The question is.... where is the BEST place to purchase the rubber?? And does anyone know the width of the original rubber (mine did not have any glass or rubber when I got the cab).
Thanks for your help!
Moncia | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | | | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 27 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 27 | I checked out the rubber at Steele Rubber....
I was trying to read the measurements.... Do you know if it is 1-3/16" or 13/16" - it was hard to make out what it was.
Thanks, Monica | | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 137 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 137 | Everyone recommends Steele Rubber. I got mine from Classic Parts here in KC and it fit great. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,263 | Be careful of overseas rubber. I have had overseas rubber turn gray and crack before I had a chance to install it. take a look at page 2 of this build thread. This guy has pretty good pics of corner window installation page 2 post #23 you might be able to give your "truck" guy some pointers. Also "Jockbolter50" from across the pond put together a great set of photos for our benefit Rear glass install pics Good Luck | | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 27 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 27 | That's where I got mine... We ordered from them before with no problems. At this point, I'm not sure if it was the person installing it or the rubber (I wasn't there when he installed it)
Bummer is... I still have to replace the rubber. I still have the chrome "bead" as he said it was to stiff to install and would have to come back later and do it. I don't know if it will fit the rubber from Steele??? Seems like it should?? | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | | | | | | Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,887 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,887 | maybe part of the problem with the chrome bead being "too stiff" is that it needs to be put in the rubber before the rubber is installed? I'd find some different help for the 2nd round
Bill | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | maybe part of the problem with the chrome bead being "too stiff" is that it needs to be put in the rubber before the rubber is installed? I'd find some different help for the 2nd round
Bill Bill,the rear rubbers i.e for the corner and rear windows are designed to be worked into the rubber before the lock strip is installed. Not to blow my own trumpet but check out my link in DADS50 post. It sounds like Monica's installer was too heavy handed working the rubber over the glass edges. The quality of rubber also has a huge bearing on 'workability'. Cheap rubber tends to tear as it passes over the glass. Like a lot of folks I've learned through experience.
Last edited by jockbolter50; 09/03/2010 9:52 PM. Reason: SpeLinG Corexshun
1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,887 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,887 | thanx jock, wasn't sure on the chrome type, but having just gotten some scarce and expensive glass in myself, I know quality help is the important part - too bad you're so far away  Bill | | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | Bill the 'chrome' is always a bit less pliable,the secret is to get it nice and warm. Good to see "Da Bus" with it's new specs!  I'd be more than happy to work on projects like yours,it would break up the monotony of working on 'Euroboxes'. 
1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 27 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 27 | He has a tool like that, but said it was the wrong size....
Monica
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,750 | He has a tool like that, but said it was the wrong size.... Monica, they do in fact come in different sizes. Sounds like he needs to expand his tool collection. If it was too large that would increase the chances of tearing the rubber as the lock strip was installed. Too small and the tool would bind on the lock strip as well. Some folks cause theirselves more grief by not using the correct tool for the job,not to mention upsetting their customers.
1950 Chevy Advance Design 3100 in ScotlandIn the Stovebolt GalleryMore pix on Flickr. I've definately got this truck thing in my blood ... my DNA sequence has torque settings"Of all the small nations of this earth,perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind" Winston Churchill.
| | | | | Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,887 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,887 | this is the type my local guy used .... interestingly, he put the rubber on the pinch weld first, cutting it quite tight then, using the suction cups, jammed the glass into one corner and with the acrylic inserter tool just worked around both directions to get it in, worked well, with plenty of cleaner/lube .... and I suspect the lack of lube causes most amateurs problems Bill | | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 27 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 27 | I talked with the tech at Steele Rubber and the rubber is 13/16" wide. That's what is in there right now and it's to narrow. The rubber I got from "American Classic Truck Parts" is 1" wide and will cover the spot welds..... Have any of you used this kit before? American Classic Truck Parts They're closed until Tuesday :-( so no tech to talk to today... | | | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 137 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 137 | | | |
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