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#65028 08/29/2006 8:00 PM
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Well I figured this was going to be a straight forward swap.. Never the case frown

Backround: Taking a SBC/TH350 combo from a 1962 GMC long bed and putting it in a 1962 Chevy short bed. This motor utilizes the U shaped front motor mount and has long tube headers. It was this way in the long bed.

It was very tight coming out of the long bed but came out with the headers on.

Once cleaned up, painted and put back together (Headers and all) we tried to get her in. The long tubes were hitting on the brake line mounts.

Loosened the headers to see if we could squeeze it in that way. Front primary tubes were now contacting the lower rear control arm mount while the collectors were hitting the cross member bellow the tranny pan.

Took the headers off completely. Laid them in place and tried dropping the motor in that way. Motor set in but the headers woud not go in to place. Both were hitting the LCA rear mount on the frame. It looked as thought the motor needed to go back 1 to 1 1/2 inches.

I fabed up a temp motor mount out of some 1 1/2 square tube putting 2 pieces together and gave it a 1 1/2 inch kick back. The U shape motor mount will allow for about 3/4" movement where the mount screws in to it and the frame allows about 3/4" where it bolts down.

With this temp motor mount in place it looks like we can get the headers on just the cross member would now need to be notched due to the collectors hitting them.


Here are my questions:

Is there a difference in location for a long bed motor vs short bed (IE more forward vs backward?)

I would assume the LCA's are in the same location, just the frame was lengthened and the rear moves back, is this true?

Who sells side mounted motor mounting plates that weld to the frame?

Am I missing something here?


1963 Chevy P/U: Forged LS1/4L80E swap and big hit of N20 coming
1973 Camaro: Low compression solid roller LS1 with PT91 turbo Built for the Silver State classic
1967 Convert Continental: Stock Cruiser
#65029 08/29/2006 8:19 PM
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BTW, I'm not sure of the brand on these headers but they are not hedman. Took a look at those via Summit Racing today and man, those would probably slide right on in.


1963 Chevy P/U: Forged LS1/4L80E swap and big hit of N20 coming
1973 Camaro: Low compression solid roller LS1 with PT91 turbo Built for the Silver State classic
1967 Convert Continental: Stock Cruiser
#65030 08/30/2006 1:45 AM
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I don't beleive that there's any differenc from short to long in the engine mounting, but there might be a difference from Chevy to GMC. That GMC was originally equipped with a really BIG V-6. It's mounting points were most likely different from the I-6 or V-8 that would be in a Chevy. I seem to recall that the last GMC I looked at, the engine was mounted somewhat forward from what a Chevy smallblock would be.
You might nose around Summits catalog a bit, I think that they have those mounts you are looking for.


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#65031 08/30/2006 8:15 AM
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Hmm I put on my thinking cap tonight.. I decided to go look at the doner GMC in the back of the shop. Much to my suprise, the factory power stearing went through where the Motor mount was on the Chevy. The cross member for the A-arms is where it had the holes.

So I walked 20 feet behind the GMC to where another 62 Chevy donor was. It had 2 mounting points. The half U shaped one off the front of the cross member and one in the cross member like the GMC.

Checked out the other 62 Chevy I was trying to fit the motor in, It has the same. 2 points.. Moved it back and now it lines up..

Now to figure out a tranny cross member for the TH350 and where to buy the side mounts and get the front one off once the side mounts are welded in.


1963 Chevy P/U: Forged LS1/4L80E swap and big hit of N20 coming
1973 Camaro: Low compression solid roller LS1 with PT91 turbo Built for the Silver State classic
1967 Convert Continental: Stock Cruiser

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