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#618583 02/10/2010 2:30 PM
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I have two starter buttons that were in the baskets and buckets that came with my truck,one is a button with a little square box with two screw type conectors "poss and neg" I think! It looks like one that is available at advance auto.The other is a "Vintique"made in USA#6A-11500-c it fits the dash much better in my 51'GMC,but it has only one bullet or bayonet type connector in the back I don't know if its 12 or 6 volt.I'd like to use the vintique because it looks much better and has a smoother action. But I'am hving some trouble seeing how to wire this in to the new 12v harness with the orginial style ignition switch. Thanks jimmy

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No can do! That one-wire switch is probably a Ford starter button, and pushing it grounds the wire to the dash. Ford used a magnetic switch in their starter circuit for about 30 years that required the single small wire attached to it to be grounded to pull in the magnet and connect the battery to the starter. You would need a relay in the circuit to energize the starter solenoid, and ground the coil with that button to make use of it in yout harness. Check it with an ohmmeter, and I'll bet you get continuity from the single terminal to ground at the switch mount when you push the button. Jerry


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Well isn't that just great!!... Now what do I do? This was the push button I had my heart set on!., That explain's the "two" ways the "two" buttons are mounted in the hole! The "vintique" with the compression springs on the side, "snap in type" , for ground to the dash, and the, "?? brand" with the "thin nuts" screwed to the dash,with the help of some plumming washers, "Black,White,..and Red". I have nothing against plumming supplies,but it's just not the right look for the truck. Someone's got to make a nice "two post" smooth action starter button!!..for stovebolts!... thanks Jerry,but as you can see I'am not ready for an ohmmeter. Thanks jimmy

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You could wire in a Ford solenoid and use that button.

But as for "Someone's got to make a nice "two post" smooth action starter button!!..for stovebolts!...", why would someone market something that one person out of 10,000 wants? Most stovebolters are happy with their mechanical mechanism in the floor.


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Maybe a dash starter switch will do what you want? This type of push button was used on 53-55 Hydra-Matics which had electric-solenoid starters. (Search by part number 1996055)

It is not clear if this item includes the "escutcheon" nut?

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That makes a lot of sense Cletis! With my luck I'am probably the only one in the world looking for a part like this.I don't know how "Most" other stovebolters are starting their engines.Although I'd prefer a floor start all the parts were missing long ago in my 51'probablly about the time it was converted to 12 volt and had a 235 six put in it and the floor was welded up.I would need to much to go back that far.I have to work with what I've got.Back to the catalogs! thanks jimmy

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Tim thanks! that looks like just the ticket.I'll call them with my hole size.Sorry for being so slow to respond,thanks again! jimmy

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The 49-50 Chevy cars used a push button start like the one youre describing. Check out "Chevs of the 40s" or one of the other suppliers.
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IM me your snail mail address, and I'll send you a wiring diagram to make the grounding switch work with the Chevy starter. All you need is one of the square Bosch relays.
Jerry


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Thanks Tim!I called them on that today, but after talking to them I think my hole is to big,and they wern't sure about the escutchoeon nut.They were both 6 volt which would have been great for me to put in a 12 volt nice and heavy duty.I already painted my dash and like a dummy did't think about it until now.Its to late to make the hole smaller.That explains the plumming washers on the old switch.I found a 60 amp rated at the auto parts,but it was the one with the rubber bulb over the button,good for a race car,but not for this.Thanks jimmy


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