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Hello stovebolt friends.
It was about 10 yrs ago now, I was driving down a street in London. I looked off to the left and there it was calling out me via signage == '49 Chevy $300 ==. http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/49Chev4400for300.jpg
Wow, that's my kind of price point! I pulled off smartly and went to look and ask. It was a 4400 with stake bed. Really rough, windows broken, but not the 5th windows. It had been used as a yard truck in a lockable storage business. Had not been on the road in decades, but most of the stuff was there. Negotiated $50 off and spent the $50 to have it flat deck towed to my place.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/49Chevtostarton.jpg
The rest is as we say 'history". I will ad more to this post as soon as I as sure how to properly link the photos.

What will follow will frustrate those who restore old Chevy's, and intrigue those who do custom work.
Higher, wider, longer, bigger.
Stay tuned.

Rick

Last edited by Rick Metcalfe; 10/04/2009 4:42 PM.

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Can't wait to see what you have done to it. That was a bargain.


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Now to get her running. Carb off and cleaned. Starter off and polished. Plugs out, cleaned, dist. points and cap cleaned. Oil topped up, water for the rad., small 1 Gal. fuel tank spliced in, 12 volt battery and jumper wires. It took a lot of rolling over, the compression was quite low. It did finally start. I drove it up and down our drive, turning around in the field. Driving with no brakes really builds character.

Now, (oops) jump to ordering parts. Brought in several boxes of tin and manuals from Jim Carter. The body was really rough, floors, cab bottoms and window lips very cheesy. This was not a candidate to "restore". I wanted to use it tow my racecar trailer or maybe run my racer up onto the deck. With very little effort, the stake bed just pryed off and crumbled to the ground.
Not even any good metal to save. $700 new parts, truck too rough.

Thinking the project through, I extrapolated the tired old straight 6 did not have what it takes to pull a tailer down the 4 lane highways. Matter of fact, when new I don't think it could keep up with current speeds. I would need something with more guts. Could put a V-8 in it? Ya, but the suspension and brakes were still antique. (Wait a minute, this is an antique truck!)
I would need a modern driveline, complete.

Some weeks later, the answer came in the form of a donor truck.
1980 Chevy C5000, (8 ton) dually, 350 V-8, 5 speed, 12 volt, etc.
Now the brainstorm. How to put the old cab on the donor frame and gear? Big truck to big truck, Chevy to Chevy! Nothing corrupt here. It was a $350 donor truck, nothin to lose.

Separated the '49 cab and frame/running gear. Posted the frame and drivetrain in classifieds, sold for $400, threw in new books from Carter's. Onto my car trailer and delivered it (rear axles and duallies hanging off the back end of the trailer).
Now, lets try out the donor truck. Same deal, gas, water, electrics and drive it around. NO BRAKES! Good thing I have experience with that. But it did have a band brake on the drive shaft.

Now to strip the donor truck to the bones. Fenders, doors, windscreen etc. sold $250.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/Donor80ChevC5000.jpg
Floor on donor cab was good so why not use it for floor on '49? Cut cab down, left firewall and steering. Sold that stake bed to a neighbor for a farm wagon. Good ole Chevrolet, they probably didn't change much in 30 yrs,
or did they? The donor cab was wider and firewall was 9" further forward. With help from a friend's tractor/bucket we lifted the cheesy cab onto the donor. The short stroke was the steering wheel now resides 8" into the windscreen. SNAP! This will be a BIG JOB! The '49 cab was to narrow too, by 6" or more. OK, I can do this (I think!).

Now you Stovebolt purist look away as I get out the Plasma cutter and quarter (literally) the '49 cab and hood. Now I can move the quarters to places where they will fit. AND it looks like 6" is the magic number for widening. All the buddies said it would be near impossible to do, because the '49 is a tapered design, smaller at front, wider at back. BUT, if I do an imaginary section down the middle and move the panels (and split hood) 3" to each side, I can just glue it back up. Anyone scared yet?? Not me! http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/49Chevwideconcept.jpg (6 yrs ago now)
Why didn't Chevy make their trucks wide to begin with? Answer: didn't need to, life was smaller then! Ha!
Off now to the shop to get dirty.
More to follow later. GO BIG OR NOT AT ALL!

-Rick

Last edited by Rick Metcalfe; 10/19/2009 9:36 AM.

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That is very interesting! Keep us posted!


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BIG OR NOT AT ALL

Some 5 yrs ago I moved the project inside my shop.
We know the AD trucks have a two piece hood. I split the seam and ground the edges. I fabricated a 6" strip to widen the hood down the middle. My English Wheel (own design/built) provided the bull nose crown for the front. Welded together it stiffened up the hood. Fitting the old cab to my '80 donor was complicated. The reference point was the center of the front fenders over the front wheels. With that in mind it set the location fore/aft for the cab. I used the floor and firewall from my donor truck (C5000) because it was not rusted/gone. It also provided the mount locations for the hanging pedal cluster.
Add new shaped rocker panels to the floor. Outer L/R dogleg cowling panels were spliced onto the '49. Inner cowl panels roughed in. Then the left and right front cab quarters were clamped into place, 6" wider. Working in 3D space with a curved cab is very complex. Up/down, fore/aft, left/right, same dim. top and bottom. It helped that I took cab dimensions as found and marked them on the '49 cab with a yellow paint pen. Then took digital pics. These pics proved invaluable when I needed to establish new +6" cab dimensions. A flexi-cab like these quarters moves like your hand when you hold your opposable thumb opposite your four fingers. Picture your thumb is the window pillar and fingers are the back of the cab. It takes seconds to move your hand and thumb, many hours to fit the door opening to a door and get a ~3/16" gap. Everything had to be clamped and tacked 10-15-20 times to get to the location and dimension I needed. Keeping in mind the door opening in 3D. Doors went on/off as many times each. The door hinge post as rusted was missing from the lower hinge down and the cab rear corners also gone. I used another AD cab to provide the pointed cowling at front/center. Cut/fitted to provide the net 6" wider. Same on roof and windshield framing.
Not many straight/flat lines to work with, everything is curved/tapered/wedge shaped etc. AH, the beauty of the old trucks! Using the second cab I donated a good rear window and spliced into my 5 window between the rear windows (so rear window is stock size.) Roof is still wide open!

As previously mentioned the steering wheel now protrudes into the windshield plane about 5-6". Need to move the wheel and column back to suit. Keep in mind there is no dash or instrument holes at this point. Disconnect the steering coupler, tie the steering wheel up in place to mock it up. Put a box in the cab to sit on and do some "visioning".

As time passes I see I have basically a two seater turned into a three seater.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/IM000148.jpg
Not enough to put anything into my truck (cab).
WHY NOT STRETCH THE CAB? and make it longer. A Crew Cab! (maybe I should have had a Suburban/Panel truck.)

OK! Found two other old donor cabs for more sheet metal. $20 each!!!
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/PhotosArchivefromCD03-04087-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/IM000049.jpg
Now I do some roughing again, hanging/clamping the other cab back-back-back, 54" sounds/looks right. http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/49Chevstretch54in.jpg Wait a minute, these cabs are tapered, wider at the back! Ifin its 6" wider at front, it is not right at the back. Lots of eye-balling and measuring and 9" is the magic number for wider at the back panel. Now I split my original cab again between the lock post and the 5th windows. Again, I re-cut the back panel and respliced it for +4.5" per side. Clamp and tack, eye-ball/measure again.
That's it, so now I have a front section and a very floppy rear section in 3D space. Agin I goes up/down, fore/aft, in/out, clamping/tacking/bracing etc. More than 30 vice grips and a dozen C-Clamps in play, with tubing, angle iron, tape, threaded rods (adjustable), string and almost bubblegum to get stuff located. I must be nuts! But I'm not scared!

NO BONES! This monster has no frames, just skin, no floors also.
Fabed up some 1.5" shaped channels for floor frames, making a grid and braces. Extended the rockers back under the big cab.
Welded up some 1/8 heavy perches for the main frame channels to hold body cushions. Found some new multi-piece GM body cushions at a swap meet. Mount new extended cab on 6 new cushions, weld floor frames to extended rockers. Now for the bones! I made a 1/4 template for the roof curves, bent up some (racecar) tubing to make roll bars. The rear gets a double, fitted just ahead of the 5th windows. Tacked welded to the body and welded down to the floor framing it stiffens the cab rear. The second pair of rollbars go behind the door lock post in the B pillar.
Now some fabing of a 48" curbside door frame (from extra cabs left/right) lock posts. Fab curbside door from two donor doors L/R. Design and fab hinges for curbside door, hinge suicide style. Fit and adjust big door, 90 degree opening, hinge bases attach to corner bones.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/IM000252.jpg
Bear claw latches in front/side doors, pins on the doors, claws in the posts. Repair front door bottoms inside/out. Shave door handles, remove window hardware, chem dip and epoxy prime doors, etc. Fit GM power window motors and arms to '49 Chevy window mechanicals. Test fire and adjust bear claw latches. Test wire and fire windows with plexi panels. Dangerous! I now have enough window torque, I think I could cut a ripe apple in half. Fab custom window lift for big door.

Now to the driver's side. Don't want suicide door opening to road side. Design and fab left side big window to match curbside big door window. Partial door window frames from '70's Chevy van, provides same corner rads and curves. Clamp and tack into place, eyballing it to line up with body lines. Design and fab roadside hatch under window, custom design hinges, hinge up and out of the way.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/IM000264.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/IM003529.jpg
This is a BIG BOLT for sure, and a BIG project.
On any big project you burn out from time to time, so I laid off of it for the best part of a yr. 99.8% of this work I accomplished SOLO!, even the heavy cab/frame work. When my lovely and patient wife Mary or daughter Jackie come out to inspect, I always try to have them hold something or sit in the truck to comment. After all they are my racecar crew and could ride in this BIG BOLT (if they approve).

Soon to the dash, cowl, wipers and steering/pedal cluster mods.
Then the big job yet to come, THE ROOF! I need to run a large panel thru "Mrs. Peel" (the English Wheel, painted British Racing Green). That may take from 4-6hrs with the help of a friend or two.
More in a couple of months as work progresses.
Also, on the horizon is an opportunity to get a '45 2Ton Art Deco farm truck (rough) from an old friend ($100). Stay tumed.

Last edited by Rick Metcalfe; 10/19/2009 9:57 AM.

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WOW!
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I've done enough sheet metal work to know how difficult and time consuming it can be, I admire your vision and willingness to stick with it.

The work you do makes prepping and finishing my stock cab seem easy. Soon I'll have all my mechanical stuff done and can't put off the sheet metal work any longer... Then I'll check back here to remind me how easy it is in comparison.

Please keep the pictures coming,

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Rick,
Can we turn that into a feature article? Can you send me the images you have linked above in a little bit higher resolution?

What a great write up!

Thanks,
John


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'49 project truck as of Oct 09.
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/49LF-1.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/49RF-1.jpg
On hold for another week while I tie up some yard work before winter.

Also, trying to arrange trailer transport for '45 Chev 2 Ton farm truck. A truck that is, per the farmer, "blocking the wood pile, it is time for it to go".
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/IMG_0008.jpg
http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz296/BAFTUB/IMG_0007.jpg
Price is right despite needing a lot.
Some times we just get lucky when a friend says "Hey I've got this neighbour who has this truck that is = = ="
More photos as I retrieve it this week.

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