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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,777 Posts1,039,270 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 34 New Guy | New Guy Joined: May 2008 Posts: 34 | What is the best size of compressor (limited room) to use with a Empire 36x24 blast cabinet. I am wanting it to do a good job, just no overkill. Thanks
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| | | | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,703 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,703 | I would think MINIMUM would be a 5 H.P., 220 volt, 2 stage with a 80 gallon tank for blastin in that cabinet. I have a 6 H.P., single stage, 60 gallon and it isnt quite up to the job...lottsa waitin on it to recover. Tim | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 227 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 227 |  Bigger the better! I use a 25 CFM compressor that has a 40 GAL tank. 5.5 HP, 240 Volt, 3 Phase. This keeps a steady volume of air without the unit running constantly to keep up supply. ( all depends on nozzle size and pressure) Others will give more advice on this no doubt....good luck!
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| | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,903 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,903 | Bigger the better sums it up pretty well. | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | I'm running a 7 hp 80gal tank 175psi 19 cfm.... and it will "catch up and rest" even while I am steadily blasting away. I run my blasting cabinet anywhere from 80 to 90 psi with a medium nozzle most of the time. | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,554 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,554 | I have never heard anyone say that their compressor was to big or powerful.So my suggestion would be to buy the biggest unit you can afford. | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 |  Bigger the better! I use a 25 CFM compressor that has a 40 GAL tank. 5.5 HP, 240 Volt, 3 Phase. This keeps a steady volume of air without the unit running constantly to keep up supply. ( all depends on nozzle size and pressure) Others will give more advice on this no doubt....good luck! What brand compressor is this....IMHO, CFM is in direct correlation to HP and there is no free lunch! I have never seen a motor that small run a pump rated at 25 CFM, it must be magic. Stuart | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 | Look at some of these compressors. At least read the information about them. They give a lot of "need to know" information when looking for a compressor. http://www.eatoncompressor.com/page/page/504747.htm | | | | Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 240 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 240 | I think you may have overlooked the 3/phase part on his post, I use 5hp 3/phase motors on hydraulic pumps that works great and a single phase 5hp motor would just grunt at. I like a 2 stage compressor that only turns about 550 rpm with a 1735 motor, that way your not spinning the guts out of the thing with a 3400 rpm motor JMHO.
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| | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Spareparts2,
I was aware of Docs three phase situation. Again...IMHO, a horsepower is a horsepower, three phase or single phase, makes no diff!
Maybe Docs stated CFM is the pump displacement, not the compressors efficiency at a specific pressure. These are two different animals.
Stuart | | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | I use a vertical 80 gal 175psi 19cfm professional I bought on sale. Its a craftsman and I have put it "to the test" for the past 8 years running shop stuff and my bead blasting cabinet. It hasn't let me down.... and while blasting my chassis with a pressure pot it would keep up and actually cut off.... every now and then!! I run it hard! | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,971 | There is also a difference in PEAK horsepower (which many manufacturers use for their HP rating), and RUNNING horsepower.
Peak HP is generally the Starting HP (capacitor start), Running HP is, well, actual HP available when the motor is running.
Big Difference!
If you want a visual, a RUNNING 5HP motor would physically be twice as big as a PEAK 5hp motor. Probably bigger.
I would always be interested in RUNNING HP. | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 227 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 227 | Stuart....... The compressor is a British made SIP Industrial. http://www.alexander-mills.co.uk/sip/compressors/compressors.htmThe motor is a 3 phase 5.5 HP running a 2-Stage, 2 cylinder compressor that will fill the 52 gallon tank within a minute of starting up.(Just worked out it is a 52 NOT 40 gallon tank!) Running a pressure sand blaster the unit can go a few minutes without cutting in, and that is running at 100 psi. The specs on the unit are 25CFM.....free air delivery. The 3 Phase 415 Volt power supply we have in Australia is a big difference to running a 5 HP single phase 110 Volt motor there in the states. That combined with the 2-Cyl, 2 Stage pump, moves and compresses the air much more efficiently than your normal air compressors.....hence the much bigger output. Just more efficient from the same amount of horsepower.
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| | | | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall | Moderator: Welcome Centre, Southern Bolters, Legion Hall Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 14,522 | ....hmmm, depends on the blasting cabinet and its requirements. That said I would DEFINTELY NOT go with the 3hp.... it would never "catch up" with steady blasting..and besides...you will ALWAYS want more air.
Lots have been said about air compressors. Do a search and you'll find hours of reading. I also think some shopping around may get you more hp and maybe 19-21 cfm.... as "suggestions" try Tractor Supply or some farm stores. | | |
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