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#528810 04/15/2009 10:36 PM
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Does anyone know if the bed side panels need to be welded to the rear crossbeam under the tailgate. Or is it strong enough just by bolting it together?

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Personally, I would weld the sides to the crossmember, as they are supposed to be. Why would you not want to?
I imagine you will get squeeking noise & rust from the movement between them if you don't weld it.


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I understand. The reason I ask is this is our first truck restoration and while dismantling the bed i noticed that the bed sides were welded at the rear crossmember. I just was not sure if that was factory or if the ricky-racer who had it before us rigged up something.

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I know what you mean. When I got my truck almost everything was welded together. Even the rear shock bolts were welded to the nuts & I had to cut them off to put new shocks on.


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where were they welded from the factory?


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Originally Posted by 50adrod
where were they welded from the factory?

The side panels were welded from the factory. No, the shock mounting nuts were not welded to the bolts from the factory. My truck was an old farm truck & the original owner welded any part that got broken over the years. The drivers door latch striker was welded to the lock post, the steering arm had broken & was welded together,exhaust manifold broken & welded, etc. etc. A lot of these old trucks were work trucks on farms & may have seen a highway very few times in their many years of use.


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I have a complete bed kit from Mar K and the instructions say nothing about welding anywhere. juust curious, I have a welder so it would be no problem.


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Hey all,
I am trying to get my fenders off the bed panels of my 57. I have the clutch head tool for the fender bolts. I am working by myself so how can get the bolts lose? Is there a secret to keeping the bolts from spinning? I can't get to both sides of the bolt head and nut? I am thinking about just drilling out the bolt.. Thank you for any ideas! Help!

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Originally Posted by UnklRod
Hey all,
I am trying to get my fenders off the bed panels of my 57. I have the clutch head tool for the fender bolts. I am working by myself so how can get the bolts lose? Is there a secret to keeping the bolts from spinning? I can't get to both sides of the bolt head and nut? I am thinking about just drilling out the bolt.. Thank you for any ideas! Help!

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A large pair of vise grip pliers on the nuts inside the fender. if they won't loosen try tighghten them until they break thats what I did.
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50adrod #530339 04/20/2009 2:48 PM
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GM started welding the rear sill to the bed sides in '51, to eliminate the possibility of the sides spreading or bowing when loaded. I've seen either two tack welds on each stake pocket to rear sill or a full bead where the stake pocket contacts the sill.Before '51, they were just bolted together.

If you're doing a correct restoration on a '51 or later, you need the welds. Otherwise they're really not necessary unless you really plan on loading up the bed.

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50adrod,
I scratch my head on these old clutch head bolt heads used through out the 57 body. Why in the world would they design a nut head like that? Can not get any grip to get them lose. Makita drill get ready! HAHA! I will breakdown and buy a small welding torch.
Thank you! Jon


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Originally Posted by UnklRod
50adrod,
I scratch my head on these old clutch head bolt heads used through out the 57 body. Why in the world would they design a nut head like that? Can not get any grip to get them lose. Makita drill get ready! HAHA! I will breakdown and buy a small welding torch.
Thank you! Jon
Same reason Mr. Phillips designed the Phillips head bolt, easier and quicker work on the assembly line; the clutch head was not as workable as the Phillips head so was replaced.
BTW I would just grind off the nuts from the back side.


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Big Chevy
Oh yes. They are a pain. I will get my Drimel out! I am down to 2 bolts on the driver side and about 4 on the pass. side.

Thank you! Jon


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