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#504285 02/10/2009 3:36 PM
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Despite having only 47,000 miles, the valves in my 216 needed replacement due to severe wear. I ordered new valves from Chevs of the 40's. The new exhaust valves look like forged steel, but the intake valves appear to be made of ordinary gray cast iron, a step down from the forged stainless valves the engine originally had, which did not even last very long. Even the stem lock grooves are cast in and not machined. Is cast iron suitable for valves? I wouldn't think so, because it is very brittle and not even especially hard.

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i would not want them especially exhaust valves .forged and machined is better .

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kingisomer,

I feel pretty confident saying there is no such thing as a cast iron valve for your engine. I also don't believe the originals were stainless, but medium carbon steel..hard and tough.

I think this is accurate.

Stuart

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Right on Stu, the valves are forged, big difference from cast.
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Denny Graham #504312 02/10/2009 5:06 PM
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The Shop Manual says they were stainless (look where it says "Valves"), but I do recall seeing rust on them.

However the replacement intake valves are definitely cast. (The replacement exhaust valves are forged, however.)

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Silichrome isn't "stainless" as we think of it, and valves can't be judged by their looks, intake and exhaust are made of different materials

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Every part of it except the stem, seat area and stem top has a rough sand cast texture nothing like the texture on forged parts. Could it actually not be cast? I may take it to a metallurgist. If he says its cast, should I send them back?

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"cast" or not, I'd be suprised if Chevs of the 40's was selling something that wasn't what they claim it to be, or inappropriate for the application, and I'd be suprised if anyone could tell by looking at a part what alloy it is and if it's appropriate .... have you talked to Chevs of the 40's?

extruding, the process cited by the shop manual - casting and forging compared - "cast iron" isn't a bad thing [scroll down a bit], or simple .... valves are made with multiple operations, and may as a result be multiple "parts"

'nother thought - aren't valves [and hardened seats] 'stellite'? it's cast

Bill

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OK, you've convinced me. I hope they last longer than the originals, though.

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don't take my word for it, ask the source, they'll know more about their products than anyone here grin

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