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#50103 09/13/2005 11:10 PM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 77 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 77 | Running a 250ci with GM HEI plugs gapped at 45 also have tried a 40 and 35 gap and always same problem, electrode worn at about 6000 miles, is this normal or do I need a colder or hotter plug? No fouling and plugs have a light tan on the ceramic! | | |
#50104 09/13/2005 11:52 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,743 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,743 | Are you using resistance-type plug wires? It sounds like the spark is a little too hot, and the gap is widening because of too high a current flow across the plug. I've seen this, and also burnung of the carbon center button in the cap when stranded metal wire was used, instead of the graphite-filled string core resistor wire. Jerry
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#50105 09/14/2005 12:04 AM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 77 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 77 | Jerry I am using 8mm high energy suppression wire is this the wrong ones to be using? | | |
#50106 09/14/2005 1:16 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,743 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,743 | That sounds OK. It's the metal-core racing wire that seems to cause the problems with plug erosion. You might check the resistance of the wires with an ohmmeter. There should be at least 3 or 4 thousand ohms on a proper resistance wire. The longer the wire, the higher the resistance. A maximum of 1,000 ohms per inch is acceptable, but considerably less is OK. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
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#50107 09/14/2005 1:38 PM | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 310 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 310 | Also, shouldn't the gap be wider? When I installed the HEI in the 235, Tom Langdon recommended the gap be (if my memory serves me) 75 thousandths.
-Tim '51 Chevy 3104 w/'56 235, 848 Head, HEI Dizzy, Corvette Cam, Split Manifold and Dual Carter YF's
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#50108 09/14/2005 6:32 PM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 77 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 77 | Anybody else have input on recomended plug gap with HEI? | | |
#50109 09/14/2005 7:42 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | You can try a wider gap, GM and Ford both had gaps of up to 80 the first year or two. GM ran into problems with internal cross-firing with the distributor cap, determined .042-.045 to be the "proper" gap. I found a reference on the MSD website saying to try .055-.060.
Fred 52 3600 69 C-10
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#50110 09/14/2005 8:12 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,743 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,743 | The reason for the wide gap settings in the early 80's was because of the extremely lean mixtures they were running back then. It was hoped there would be at least a little combustible mixture in the gap area if it was wide enough. It worked; I could set gaps in the 35-45 thousandths range and get a miss, and go up to 60 to 80, and run smooth! With normal mixtures, 45 thousandths is about right. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
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#50111 09/14/2005 10:07 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Good sugestions. Also you might try copper core plugs. They handle high heat better. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#50112 09/14/2005 11:19 PM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 77 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 77 | Thanks for the input I will try gapping at 55 thousandths and see if it helps, as always there is so much knowledge on the bolt thanks jim | | |
#50113 09/15/2005 2:04 AM | Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 499 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 499 | What do you mean by "worn"? You put them in at .035" and 6000 miles later they're at .070" or what is it that you mean? I'm not reading that you actually have a problem. "No fouling and plugs have a light tan on the ceramic!" What kind of plug and heat range are you using? I'm using AC R44TS and have had a stock GM HEI in the 292 for about 15 years. I usually change the plugs every five years whether I need to or not.
'67 GMC 3/4 292 4spd
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#50114 09/15/2005 2:06 AM | Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 499 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 499 |
'67 GMC 3/4 292 4spd
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#50115 09/16/2005 7:09 PM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 77 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 77 | Update, put new plugs in and gapped at 55 thousandths not only does it have a little more throttle response but it will idle down the road in 5th gear which it would not do before, thanks for all advice. jim | | |
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