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#47718 07/14/2005 11:54 PM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 | Last night, while driving my 2001 Lumina, I began to experience a weird happening.
As I would drive, the car would periodically seem to shut off and restart itself. The radio would go off and come back on, as if someone had turned the key off and back on. It didn't seem to lose power (engine wise) during this. Although the airbag light would begin flashing when it restarted, just like it does when started up cold, and I was running near 80 mph.
While it was running, I couldn't see any difference in the beams of the headlamps, or the instrument panel. However, the face of the stereo, i.e. the clock was pulsating. I could also hear engine noise through the radio, even when it wasn't on???
Could it possibly be something as simple as a loose batter cable, bad alternator, or am I more likely looking at a hefty labor bill to find a short or something?
Any thoughts from you other guys? I hate these dag-nab computer controlled contraptions. | | |
#47719 07/15/2005 2:56 PM | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 148 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 148 | check your battery terminals to see if they are clean and the cables are tight. then check your groung strap to make sure it isin good condition. i would also get the alternator checked - just check the voltage while the car is running, it should be in the 13.5v-14.4v range
2003 ford lightning 1959 chevy 36
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#47720 07/15/2005 3:15 PM | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 709 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2001 Posts: 709 | Not an expert here but possibly it may be one of those computer chips getting flakey.
Bruce Old Toy: Ol' Betsy stock 59 Apache SB Stepside (Gone but not Forgotten) New Toy: 1962 Impala SS Coupe The Driver: 1990 Toyota truck
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#47721 07/15/2005 3:31 PM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,384 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,384 | My bet is the alternator. Brian | | |
#47722 07/15/2005 4:34 PM | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 33 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 33 | I had this happen in 2004 silverado, except I would loose power to everything my engine would shut off, all accesories, everything.... it turned out to be bad wire in the steering column coming from the ignition switch. | | |
#47723 07/15/2005 7:04 PM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 328 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2003 Posts: 328 | My guess is a bad ground. The items turning on and off can be several things, but radio noise is caused by a bad groung 99% of the time. This makes me think that all of the problems are due to a bad ground.
Phil
Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into your brain...that is where crappy ideas come from.
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#47724 07/15/2005 7:39 PM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 | Thanks to all of you for your replies.
I'm hoping to get a chance to look it over this weekend. I'm hoping it's something as simple as a ground, bad battery cables, or the alternator.
Those were my first thoughts, particularly the alternator, but I was afraid of something more like HotRod Rocker, or Bruck K is talking about.
I started it up late last night, after I got home, and it didn't seem to be having any of the issues I experienced the night before.
Oh well, at least it gave me an excuse to drive the truck downtown.
I'll let you know what I find out. | | |
#47725 07/15/2005 7:51 PM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 8 | Any UFO sightings in the area?
If not, it's likely a losse wire somewhere. Was happening to my '53 pick up - turned out to be a wire that was holing on by 1 strand.
Ian Horner
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#47726 07/15/2005 11:38 PM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 | Ian,
I like that theory. With all of the aero-space industry we have in the area, it's hard to say what might be flying through the air at 1:00 a.m. when it was happening. | | |
#47727 07/16/2005 5:18 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | These newer cars are not simple like the old days. Is the check engine light on. If it is, there will be codes in the memory about what the computer thinks is wrong. This could be very dangerous for you on the freeway. | | |
#47728 07/16/2005 5:30 PM | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: May 2005 Posts: 2 | Jed, what kind of engine noise could you hear from your radio? I worked in a Delphi generator lab, and when we would get bad returns from newer cars (2002-2003) the engine noise would be a howling coming from the alternator. The howling means there was more amps pulling from the alternator than it could handle, which was for the most part a bad regulator.
so if your noise is howling = new alternator.
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#47729 07/17/2005 6:49 PM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 | Brad, the noise sounds like engine noise to me. You step on the gas, the noise increases, you let off, it decreases. As I said, It happens whether or not the radio is on of off. Kind of like running non-resister plugs back in the day.
Truckernix, the check engine light never comes on. The only lights I see change when it happens is the airbag light comes on and flashes a couple of times immediately after it happens.
Just like when you turn the key on cold before start-up. | | |
#47730 07/18/2005 12:32 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | Jed, that airbag light would tell me that the computer is going through some kind of restart, just like you said. | | |
#47731 07/19/2005 6:03 AM | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 | Well, I had to tear half the front end of the car off to get to the battery, but I'm hopeful I found the problem. Negative cable was 1.5 turns loose, positive cable was about 3/4 of a turn loose.
I drove the car today, and so far, no problems.
Hope I make it home...
Thanks for all of the advice. | | |
#47732 07/19/2005 2:51 PM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,031 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,031 | salt gremlins @ work late @ night
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