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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 156 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 156 | Hello. My 1951 3100 has been titled in Kansas all its life. The VIN on the title is and always has been the "engine serial number" (the number stamped on a boss behind the distributor). I assume most people consider the "vehicle serial number" (the number on a metallic plate on the door frame), to be the VIN.
So why would the State of Kansas, 57 years ago, use the engine serial number instead of the vehicle serial number on the title?
You Kansans out there, what number is on your title?
It's a problem now because my mom has signed the title over to me and I live in Oklahoma. I gave my insurance guy the vehicle serial number, so now the VIN on my title and the VIN on my insurance don't match, and I can't get a tag.
Even if I have my insurance guy change the number to the engine serial number, I'm concerned that, when the Oklahoma tag agent visually inspects my vehicle, they'll say, "That's not the VIN".
Any thoughts, especially you Kansans?
DJ '51 Chevy 3104 1/2-ton 216
| | | | | Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,969 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,969 | I don't know about Kansas, but apparently in many states pre-57 or so the engine number was used. It's too bad that so many people who work in DMV offices are illiterate to this common occurance with old vehicles. I suggest you get the insurance agent to change the number to the VIN shown on the title and request a visual inspection from the OK tag agent....
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| | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | If your engine number mathces the number on the title you should have no problem. Any inspector knows that the engine number on many old vehicles was the number used on the title regardles of the state. The problem comes when the engine has been changed at one time & no one changed the title. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 156 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 156 | Thanks Wrenchbender and Frank50. It's clear that where I screwed up was when I told my insurance guy, "the number on the title is not really the VIN", and he said "then give me the right VIN". I caused this problem. I hate it when that happens.
Hopefully, my insurance guy will change the number on the policy. He's a bit of a stickler.
DJ '51 Chevy 3104 1/2-ton 216
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | Most states used the engine number as the VIN through '55. It 'taint just Kansas.
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