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| | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 | How do I drain the oil out my canister when I change the oil? I changed the oil today and the canister wouldn't drain! I ended up using a dixie cup and scooping the old oil out. Is something broken or clogged? It seems like it should just drain down to the crankcase from gravity. Not sure...anyways I would like to know the proper procedure for the next oil change. Thanks.
Kyle
"Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton My Machine | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 |
"Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton My Machine | | | | | Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 322 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 322 | I have always used a turkey baster thingy....it's about 10" long with a squeeze ball thingy on the end...hope I didn't cornfuse you with all the "technical" terms.
Blue 50
1950 3100 w/57 235
Patrick’s Saginaw 4 speed and 3:55 rear end
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | I believe some of the Fram filters had a drain plug in the bottom. I've not seen any of the one-quart AC filters that had them. The return is thru a 1/16" hole in the center tube about an inch or so from the top. Which by the way you should make sure is clear when you change the filter.
The guy with the old Blue 50 has the right idea. When I worked as a greaser at the Chevy dealer back in the late 50’s we used one of those siphons that look like a grease gun with a plunger handle in the end, just a commercial turkey baster. Then a lot of shop rags to soak up the rest. Good time to use up all those old ragged clothes that the wife’s been bugin’ ya to get rid of!
By the way Blue, that is an arful purty Blue truck ya got there, I’m jealous, wish I was that fur along on mine. Where’d that pad come from ya got in the bed???
Denny Graham
Sandwich, IL
Denny G
Sandwich, IL
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,299 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,299 | I really think you have it plumbed backwards. The pressure line goes to the top and side and the hose to the bottom is the gravity fed return line. When you change the oil that way, it will be for the most part empty but you have to clean out very little oil after removing the filter element. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,961 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,961 | In the 50's we used a thing called a sludge pump. Cheap ones were marketed by Fram, Alemite sold an expensive chrome one. It is nothing more then a cylinder with a plunger to create a vacuum. At one time we had so many oil changes that we rigged one out of a tank like an old truck saddle tank. We would pull the tank down with vacuum and suck the oil out into the tank. When the tank got heavy, we would apply about 10 psi air to it and squirt the oil out. I just looked on ebay and someone has an alemite suction gun with a starting bid of $6. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 322 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 322 | Denny,
thanks...it's just regular truck pad that I cut to size to fit my bed.
Chuck
Blue 50
1950 3100 w/57 235
Patrick’s Saginaw 4 speed and 3:55 rear end
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,061 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,061 | Denny,
I think I saw one of those pumps at Fleet Farm the other day. They were not of the Alemite quality but would probably work.
1946 1-ton Panel
1952 1-ton Comml. W/Grain Body
| | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | As stated above, Fram sold a " FRAM SLUDGE SIPHON" for this purpose. A long plastic baster does the same job - the tube diameter on the above siphon is 1/4". "Cleans Filter For Fast, Efficient Cartridge Changing" | | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 738 | Hmmm...so there is no slick easy way. I guess I will have to get out a turkey baster. Seems like the oil should feed back down into the crankcase...but then I guess it would be dry in the filter every time I start it. Is there an easy way to retrofit the 235 with a "Spin On" style oil filter?
"Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." - George S. Patton My Machine | | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Fort Know,
Just my two cents. I have Linde forklifts that have cartridge filters like this. When I change the oil, I pull the cartridge before I drain the pan. After I remove the cartridge, I stuff a clean rag into the canister, then go about my oil change.
By the time I get back to the canister, the rag has soaked up all the oil and I simply remove it and install the new filter.
Buying a spin on type would certainly be a good move in my book.
Stuart | | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | Try Trans-Dapt. I have one of their remote adapters on my S10. I think you can just get the filter part separate without the rest of the relocation kit to save some $$$. Most of them use a PH8A (Fram) or equivalent filter, I beleive that is a Chrysler V8 or possibly ford V8 application.
Bill Burmeister
| | | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: May 2008 Posts: 3 | Both of the canisters I own have screw plugs on the bottom of them for draining. I am only using one. I will send you the extra one I have for free if you want it, just pay for the shipping. It is in perfect condition, not rusted, just could use a little paint. Tim in Ca. You can contact me at [email protected] | | |
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