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This posting is one in a series. If you have not yet read the earlier postings in the series, you’ll need to, as this posting won’t make much sense without having done so! Just do a search using the word “SLURP”.

In my last posting, I described how Red got completely undressed in preparation for painting.

Last night, we received the transmission that had been waiting for us for several days, loaded and dispatched Red’s body parts for bodywork and painting, and took a good look at our most obvious technical issue. As a result, this posting turns out to be all about the value of expertise and experience.

The evening began with David Horner from Restoration Specialties bringing over his trailer to collect Red’s body parts. Incredibly enough, he talked his patient wife, Michele, into accompanying him on this “small errand”. He was joined minutes later by Randy Peurifoy.

The next 90 minutes or so were a superb and information-dense experience for me, as I watched and listened as two lifelong pros in the business of designing, building, restoring, and finishing custom vehicles almost casually executed a meticulous loading/packing job while at the same time continuing a running conversation about things to consider doing – things I hadn’t even thought of yet. Between running the Deere tractor and taking photos where I could, I didn’t have much time to write down much of what they discussed, but it pretty much “filled my head”.

Here they are after gently guiding red’s cab past the trailer fender onto the trailer deck:
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/JimGnitecki/Valueofexpertiseandexperience001loa.jpg

And here’s one of the multiple planning discussions that took place:
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/JimGnitecki/Valueofexpertiseandexperience002loa.jpg

Getting closer:
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/JimGnitecki/Valueofexpertiseandexperience003loa.jpg

Just about ready to go:
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/JimGnitecki/Valueofexpertiseandexperience004loa.jpg

Just a short SAMPLING of what they managed to cover while loading the parts:
- Elimination of excess firewall holes

- potentially integrating the tachometer into a “looks original” instrument pod

- Reversing the speedometer and instrument pods (same diameter) so that the column shift lever no longer obscures the speedometer (factory GM design error for automatic 55s)

- Removing the ugly joint and center strip from the hood

- Recognizing that the hood was in fact from an earlier model (55s didn’t have either center strip or the Chevy front emblem)

- Noting that this is probably the reason the core support was cut at the top (to allow fitment of the incorrect hood)

- Showing me that replacing the entire dash panel with the spare I have is actually easier than using parts off the spare to repair the butchered one in the cab right now

- Agreeing that the fancy but inappropriate “bird” hood ornament will make a fine addition to David’s trophy wall

- Marveling at the fact that activation of the parking brakes uses a SOLID STEEL cross-chassis bar mechanism that weighs 12 ½ pounds! (I weighed it)

- Noting that the factory tint on Red’s windshield and side windows is both perfect and also perfectly matched

- Laughing at my fear that removing the ugly aftermarket tint in the corner windows and rear window will be difficult and messy (David has “ways” of doing this, and says the tint shops have a vested interest in making it sound unattractive for owners to do themselves!)

- Verifying that the back exterior of the cab, obscured by the cargo box, had NEVER once even been repainted, despite the incredible number of recoats, in multiple different colors, everywhere else (the back of the cab was still the factory forest green standard color)

- Agreeing that overall the bodywork is in fairly marvelous condition, with the only corrosion problem areas being where the heater core leak was allowed to exist long enough to attack the floor, and where driver’s wet boots left water in front of the pedals that was too many times not properly cleaned up

- Agreeing that the original ranch owners must have REALLY liked communication (versus music) radios, as they appear to have had 3 or maybe 4 of them – probably why the dash was so modified, and why there are 4 antenna holes in the body!

- Pretty much convincing me that the best way to protect the fender paint from chipping via stones tossed up from the INSIDE was to coat the insides of the fenders with a really neat truck bed material that was on the pickup truck that David used to pull the trailer last evening – looks REALLY nice, and not very heavy in weight.

- David offering to bend back the firewall for more engine clearance, if we want him to (he does it quite commonly on street rods versus faithful restorations in order to enable easier and more optimal installation of the drivetrain)
If my memory were better, I could go on for pages . . .

Heck, they started talking at one point about the restorations and repairs they had each done on Packard Caribbean cars! For those who do not know, those Packard models were super low volume vehicles, with only a few hundred being produced each year for maybe 4 years or so in the early 50s. They were pretty fancy, and are now of course exceedingly rare and priced well into six figures if restored. One brought to David had been squatter-settled by a family of mice, who had moved up the exhaust system right into condominiums within the engine cylinders (big straight 8). David recalled that you started it by depressing the clutch and partially pushing the accelerator – no starter button. When he did so, he got a shop full of mouse droppings out the exhaust! Randy had been tasked with restoring the torsion bar air suspension on another one (yes, you read that correctly: torsion bar air). This was sort of like two guys who both played in Super Bowl games getting together to casually discuss game highlights . . .

Continued . . .

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After David and Michele left with the body parts (sounds like a horror movie, doesn’t it?  ), Randy and I focused on Red’s new engine, the LQ9 6.0 liter out of the 2003 Cadillac Escalade.

First, we successfully got it onto the engine stand, using the engine hoist to do the lifting and positioning:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/JimGnitecki/Valueofexpertiseandexperience005eng.jpg

We mocked up the engine mounting on the passenger side, and here are a couple of photos of that:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/JimGnitecki/Valueofexpertiseandexperience006eng.jpg

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/JimGnitecki/Valueofexpertiseandexperience007eng.jpg

Note how this 100% bolt-in / no welding engine mounting setup for the Advance-Design series trucks works, on each side of the engine:

- The stock LS series engine mount comes entirely off the LQ9

- The billet machined Chassis Engineering “LS adapter plate” bolts onto the engine


- Half of a “standard” Chassis Engineering small block Chevy (SBC) mount bolts to the LS adapter plate

- That SBC mounting piece bolts onto another piece, what I will call the “channel piece”, via a sophisticated rubber / steel engine mounting sandwich

- That channel piece slides into the AD truck frame rail channel, and then you drill 2 holes from above the frame rail and 2 holes from below, and bolt the channel piece to the framerail with a total of 4 Grade 8 or better bolts (10.4 would be ideal).

At least in theory, this arrangement has several advantages over custom or weld-in solutions:

- No welding, so no chance of damaging the frame rail, or creating an inadequate weld

- Predictable, “standard” height of the drivetrain relative to the chassis, which at least minimizes the opportunities for interference with other parts, and for driveshaft angle issues, since it has been pre-engineered

- The channel pieces can be slid forward or rearward to wherever the engine positioning is BEST, all things considered, before being bolted in

- Inexpensive, compared to custom fabrication

- Higher probability of everything fitting (nothing is CERTAIN in hotrodding!)

There are however two dampeners to all these advantages:

1. Despite the apparent fore and aft flexibility, and despite the fact that an LS engine has no nasty distributor trying to bump into the firewall, the width of the cylinder heads and bellhousing limit how far back you can go, and the incredible fore and aft depth required for front end accessories and their drive (FEAD), limit how far forward you can go before bumping into the front crossmember, or core support, or radiator.

2. The LS adapter plates extend further FORWARD than the stock engine mounts (in order to achieve the rearward overall engine placement), and so the passenger side plate interferes with the mount for the air conditioning compressor, and with the AC compressor itself.

The AC compressor mount can be trimmed a bit to fit, and we might even be able to keep all 4 mounting bolt locations for it. But, the stock AC compressor will LIKELY hit the new engine mount (Randy will do some measuring at his jobsite today to see if that is in fact the case).

So, we are bracing ourselves for the probability of needing to find a different compressor, maybe one off a compact import car, that will be SHORTER than the stock GM one, and no greater in diameter (we estimate we have only 5 ¼ inches or so of working diameter space before we encounter the inside edges of the framerail channel). We would then need to fabricate a mounting adaptor. We also need a compressor that comes with, or can be fitted with, a pulley compatible with the belt type and size on the LQ9 harmonic balancer that drives the AC compressor (separate from the serpentine belt).

I’ve told Randy that this is a surprisingly vital need, because if we need to change FEAD system altogether, to get the compressor moved elsewhere (like above the passenger valve cover), the aftermarket FEAD systems for LS engines START at about $2300!! That’s more than we paid for the salvaged LQ9 engine! That is way outside any semblance of budget for the project. So, we need to resolve this compressor issue, or I’ll be traveling without HVAC for a while, and Texas summers get HOT! But with Randy’s experience, I know I have the very best guy looking for the right solution. Randy has seen SO many compressors.

Continued . . .

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Finally, last night when David came over, he brought with him the custom 700R4 transmission that Greg Ducato and his team at Phoenix Transmission had built for me, and shipped to David’s shop. It had been sitting at David’s shop until we got a break in the weather, and he could actually pick up Red’s parts for bodywork and paint.

Wow! Talk about high quality and classy execution.

Here’s how the packaging is done by Phoenix, for safe shipment:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/JimGnitecki/Valueofexpertiseandexperience008tra.jpg

Notice how everything is secured, and how the accessory items are even taped to the side of the box. You cannot see the interior wood “pallet” inside the box (in addition to the one OUTSIDE the box), but it is very much there.

And here is a view of the accessories that I ordered, sight unseen and brand / model unknown, trusting Greg’s judgment to provide the right stuff:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/JimGnitecki/Valueofexpertiseandexperience009tra.jpg

Note the use of brand names, especially Lokar, where Greg’s judgment is that these are the best for the application. Each of these items is beautiful and attention-getting, and add immensely to the overall appeal of the package.

Here is a photo of the correct flexplate for our application:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/JimGnitecki/Valueofexpertiseandexperience011fle.jpg

And finally, the piece de resistance: the incredible “polished” transmission casing that Phoenix proudly provides on its transmissions:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/JimGnitecki/Valueofexpertiseandexperience010tra.jpg

How’s THAT for visual chassis appeal?

All this stuff happening last evening made me realize how blessed I am to have this kind of talent, expertise, and experience keeping me on the road and out of the ditch as we continue this amazing transformation of a 53 year old truck into a reborn life. I have to tell you guys and gals that I am totally in awe of what people like Randy, David, and Greg can accomplish while making it look and sound so deceptively easy.

There is immense value in expertise and experience, that you sometimes don’t realize you have benefited from, unless you actually ask a few questions, and start to see what you would surely have missed trying to do it “on your own” instead of with a great team. I suspect that a lot of the folks who benefit daily from the expertise of these 3 men have no idea how much they are benefiting from it.

Jim G


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