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#37789 05/12/2003 8:57 PM | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 20 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 20 | hello all,
Grandpa gave me a 62 Stepside 1/2 ton with what I assume is a 235 inline 6 cylinder engine. Is there any other options for a stock 62 1/2 ton with an inline 6?
It also has the 3 on the tree transmission. The truck is all original with about 92,000 miles.
The motor is losing oil like there is a hole in it when it was running. It will not start now, despite rebuilding the carb and replacing the distributor and coil. In any case, the motor needs to be rebuilt or replaced.
I usually work on one of the other brands and I know nothing of engines and transmission compatibility for these old Chevy's.
So here are some questions, please feel free to provide any other basic info on these engines and tranny's:
1. at 92,000 miles. would rings and seals be good enough?
2. If I rebuild it, any reccomended kits or suppliers? how about a short block?
3. Any chance a 350 will bolt up to the 3 speed? If so, where can I get motor mounts?
Thanks, any help appreciated
62 1/2 Ton Stepside, 3 on the tree and 235 I6 Grandpa gave it to me, it is straight and original with about 90K original miles..
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#37790 05/12/2003 9:11 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | gtex,
I think a 1962 C-10 and a C-20 could have had a 235 or 283 engine. A book I have also says a 261 was not available in a 1962 1/2 ton truck.
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#37791 05/13/2003 5:42 AM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | If you're going to tear into the 235, I would recommend a complete rebuild. Since the 283 was an option on the 62, dropping a 350 in won't be that difficult. A set of mounts should be available at your local parts store, the small block chevy used the same basic block and mounts for years. The v8 bell-housing should fit to your 3 speed.
Fred 52 3600 69 C-10
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#37792 05/13/2003 3:56 PM | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 140 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 140 | Depends on whether you want to restore the truck or make a better runner out of it. The old 235 six isn't bad, but it's never gonna be a real stormer.
If it were me, I'd sell the six to a stovebolter lookin' for a motor for an older truck, then drop a V8 in. You'll need a bellhousing, as noted, because the V8s have different bolt patterns than the old sixes. Easy to find.
Check out how the motor mounts - they keep changing and offhand I have no idea how 62s were done. But V8s were stock in 62, so you can find mounts.
I once had a '64 1-ton worktruck with a stormin' good 350 in it, truck 4-speed, and 4.11 or so rear end. Ran great on the highway, at about 4 grand or so, but it could pass darn near anything.
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#37793 05/13/2003 10:46 PM | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 20 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 20 | Any suggestions on where to get a 235 short block or where to find motor mounts and a tranny bell-housing for a 350?
If I need to hit the junk yards, what year trucks, trannies and engines should I be looking for? Are all V8s of these years comparable to the 350 as far as bolt pattern?
Sorry for all of the questions. I'm just new to these Chevy Trucks. I'd like to get this running as I have recently rebuilt the suspension and brakes. It just needs power :-)
62 1/2 Ton Stepside, 3 on the tree and 235 I6 Grandpa gave it to me, it is straight and original with about 90K original miles..
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#37794 05/14/2003 5:24 PM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | The way to find a 235 is to post an ad in the swap meet section, and one will find you. I did that and ended up with one, and then I found a nice 261 so the 235 is holding down my garage floor as a spare. If you want to keep it six get a 261, they are nice, or if you want a 350 V8 just get a '63-up bellhousing from either a 6 or V8, they are equivalent and will fit your crossmember. You can keep your tranny or go with any number of choices.
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#37795 05/14/2003 7:56 PM | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 20 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 20 | Thanks.
Understand, that I don't want another used 235. I have one of those. I want a rebuilt short-block. I've got 5 cars,including 3 old project trucks. Rebuilding a motor myself is just not in the time budget.
Now, if a rebuilt 235 short-block is going to cost me $2000 and I can get a 350 long block for $1200. I'll pursue the 350 bell-housing and motor mounts.
Provided I find a V8 powered truck, what years motor mounts will work?
62 1/2 Ton Stepside, 3 on the tree and 235 I6 Grandpa gave it to me, it is straight and original with about 90K original miles..
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#37796 05/15/2003 4:23 AM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 346 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 346 | gtex,
You'll have to move the steering gear outboard 1-3/4 to 2" to accomadate a V-8. And thats with a careful selection on the left hand exhaust manifold.
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#37797 05/15/2003 8:07 AM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | You will need to get the 235 rebuilt yourself, they aren't common enough to be had off the shelf.
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#37798 05/15/2003 1:36 PM | Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 46 Member | | Member Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 46 | ARE WE CALLING A 235 A SHORT BLOCK? BECAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT A 350 WAS A SHORT BLOCK AND A 454 WAS A BIG BLOCK. I KNOW A 235 IS A STRAIGHT 6. PLEASE JUST CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. | | |
#37799 05/15/2003 1:53 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 454 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 454 | A "short block" is the block without head(s). Can be any size engine.
Jeff Nelson
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#37800 05/15/2003 4:02 PM | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 20 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 20 | Any place to get a rebuild kit?
Thanks for the info on the steering. Sounds like I'll be staying with the 235. I don't have time for another coversion project. I'd just like to get this thing running.
I guess I'll check the adds for a recently rebuilt motor.
Thanks,
62 1/2 Ton Stepside, 3 on the tree and 235 I6 Grandpa gave it to me, it is straight and original with about 90K original miles..
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#37801 05/15/2003 5:59 PM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | Kanter.com has them, or your local machine shop.
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#37802 05/15/2003 8:16 PM | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 206 Member | | Member Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 206 | Jim Carter's Classic trucks has 216, 235 and yes, 261 shortblocks, rebuilt, shrink-wrapped and ready to go out the door for about $1500 or less. Saw 'em with my own eyes when I visited KC a couple months ago. | | |
#37803 05/15/2003 10:46 PM | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 20 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 20 | I called Jim's, they actually quoted me only $895 + $150 core and shipping for a 235 short block. Sounds like a deal, no?
It would probably cost me $600 to get a rebuild kit and have my block cleaned up. Sounds tempting.
62 1/2 Ton Stepside, 3 on the tree and 235 I6 Grandpa gave it to me, it is straight and original with about 90K original miles..
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#37804 05/16/2003 12:04 AM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 130 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 130 | hello gtex. i don't think you will have to move the steering box on a 62 as they were available with v8s. the earlier trucks [55 first series and earlier] have the problem with the box being too close to the engine for a v8 to fit easily. i think yours is a bolt in with the right mounts and bell housing as mentioned earlier
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#37805 05/16/2003 1:26 AM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 346 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 346 | garyg,
You are soooooo correct about the steering gear. Must have been late at night when I posted that one... :rolleyes:
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