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Here's the question:

My '55 1st edition has a 261 (in place of the factory 235)coupled to a factory original Hydra-Matic 4-speed with fluid coupling versus torque converter. I am spelling this out so that no one thinks I am discussing a "modern" Hydramatic!

In 1956, the smallblock v-8 was available on the task force trucks, AND could be ordered with a "Hydra-matic". I was not positive that this was the "original" iron case Hydra-Matic like I have, so I checked the gear ratios in the 1956 shop manual. They are identical to mine, so I am THINKING this WAS indeed the original iron case HydraMatic and not one of the "new" automatics introduced around 1956.

IF this is true, shouldn't I be able to couple any smallbloack CHevy V8 to my Hydra-Matic? Or, did the early smallblocks have any wierd bellhousings or adaptors fore the automatic?

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if it,s bolted to a 235 or 261 it willnot bolt to a V8...doc

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The 6 cyl. hydra-matic actually has sort of an adapter plate between engine and trans. I know that there were some hydramatics in Oldlmobile, Pontiac, Rolls Royce, Cadillac, and others. I don't have any idea if a bellhousing is available for a modern smallblock bolt pattern. The other problem might be a flywheel that is actually front part of torrus housing as well as a starter. If you decide to do away with the trans for something more modern, I may be interested in picking up a spare hydramatic if it is for a torque tube driveshaft. Actually even the 261 if same circumstances you decide you need a more modern driveline.

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If you can find the correct v8 hydro parts, it will work. I tried some time back to find a v8 hydro bell housing, but could not find one. You might try looking for one on the HAMB BB.

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Greg H: My AD truck is a 55 1st edition, so it has the open Hotchkiss type drive from the factory.

Lonnie: So I am correct - the parts exist, but might be rare huh?

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Hy JimGnitecki, I had a 57 Chev 1 ton p.u. with a V8 hydramatic dual range four speed transmission, You will need a V8 bellhousing, flywheel, possibly a torus cover, and possibly the the two fluid coupling elements, and a V8 hydramatic starter [ whose solenoid hangs almost upside down when installed] hope that helps.

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Originally Posted by 3B
Hy JimGnitecki, I had a 57 Chev 1 ton p.u. with a V8 hydramatic dual range four speed transmission, You will need a V8 bellhousing, flywheel, possibly a torus cover, and possibly the the two fluid coupling elements, and a V8 hydramatic starter [ whose solenoid hangs almost upside down when installed] hope that helps.

Wow, that helps! Thank-you, 3B. smile

Jim G


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