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#30402 10/02/2002 3:24 AM | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 96 | Guys. I need some help/info. My girl has a small 4 cylinder 4WD ute (Mazda) that has a miss at idle. Im thinking its probably a valve. I had a mechanic suggest we take it to a place with an ociliscope (?) which he said will allow us to determine the cause of the misfire. I am totally unaware of how and what this instrument does. Apparently the operator will be able to dtermine if it is valve, ignition or fuel related (EFI). Does that sound right? Thanks in advance.
Send David Hicks home - now! "Better to be wrong and kill no one then right with mass graves" Albert Camus
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#30403 10/02/2002 5:24 AM | | Anonymous Unregistered | | Anonymous Unregistered | Oscilloscope? The guy was on drugs. I have several digital Oscilloscopes and while you can set them up to do diagnostics on cars - why risk a $2500 precision instrument to do something you can accomplish with a automotive diagnostic analyzer designed specifically for your car? Take it to a Mazda dealer and they will be able to read any fault codes and the history buffer with something designed specifically for your car. | | |
#30404 10/02/2002 7:13 AM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | I think he was using the term oscilloscope generically. Many diagnostic machines have a scope built into them. And they do work as he described.
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#30405 10/02/2002 1:29 PM | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 985 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 985 | I agree with FredT and would like to say this guy was showing his ignorance. He choose to use a big word when a diminutive one would have worked fine. What is that old saying " Better to keep ones mouth shut and be thought a fool then to open it and remove all doubt!"
Brian Moore 1949 3100 5 window Deluxe "Today is better than yesterday, but not as good as tomorrow" | | |
#30406 10/02/2002 1:31 PM | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 96 | Hate to burst your bubble but it wasnt ignorance (this time)  and I know plenty of big words, my last name has 14 letters, :p I was just repeating what the RAC (AAA) wrench said. No offence taken for my skin is thick (as is my head)  "The only stupid question is the one you dont ask" and I knew nothing of these. I hope to one day be as smart as those around me and if asking questions makes me a fool then I am a King for a day and a fool for life. 
Send David Hicks home - now! "Better to be wrong and kill no one then right with mass graves" Albert Camus
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#30407 10/02/2002 3:17 PM | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 96 | Brian. Just re-read your post and Im guessing you were refering to the wrench not me. Sorry about that, its late out here if thats any excuse. Seems I misunderstood you as others have me Perhaps I really am ignorant at times. :p So thats why life is bliss  and how wars are started.
Send David Hicks home - now! "Better to be wrong and kill no one then right with mass graves" Albert Camus
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#30408 10/02/2002 3:44 PM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | Well, yes an osilliscope is(OR CAN BE)a tool that is used for doing diagnostics.If it is an older machine, I would take it elsewhere for diagnostics.(I am saying older by 18 years old or more).Also look around their shop/place of business to see what it is they work on(types and years).If there is A LOT of junk around, I would suggest going elsewhere. Ask if you can see the Osilliscope they are referring to.If it says something like Automotive digital engine anaylzer it may be what you need. Have you done the simple stuff first,like compression test,leak-down test or even put a vacuum guage on it? Let us know(King for a day  )(Keep asking questions  )
There is enough good in the worst of us and enough bad in the best of us that it does not behoove any of us to criticize the rest of us. - - Be yourself. If you are ever lost, It will be much easier to find yourself if you know who you are!
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#30409 10/02/2002 4:31 PM | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 985 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 985 | NO problem I was refering to the mechanic and not you. So is it spring time down under?
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#30410 10/03/2002 2:33 AM | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 96 | Thanks for accepting the apology, I get a bit grumpy (Hi GL) when Im tired (or so Im told). Yeah spring is here, well summer really we only get a couple of seasons Wet and cold, dry and hot. Hope fully we'll sort this misfire out Monday when its booked into the shop (I havent got the tools or workshop anymore) and I'll post some shots of our trips on my site. If you want to check out the beach here look for a post from last week refering to beer and beach and Australia. Hope you are all having a lovely day. Im off to walk my nieghbours dog...... down to the beach. Be safe all.
Send David Hicks home - now! "Better to be wrong and kill no one then right with mass graves" Albert Camus
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#30411 10/08/2002 8:57 AM | Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 96 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 96 | Got the little girl back from the shop today and she is running much better - so is the truck.  The wrench seems to think it was carbon build up and added a carbon removal product. Truck has 140,000 kms (about 85,000 miles) Pity it was EFI not a carby then water would have worked (I learnt that here - thanks) but its better and it wasnt a head (thankfully) so we're better and so is my girl's wallet. Thanks for the input guys.
Send David Hicks home - now! "Better to be wrong and kill no one then right with mass graves" Albert Camus
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