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#26823 02/12/2002 12:45 PM | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 14 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 14 | Had the 216 in my 46 rebuilt last summer and it runs great. While I was at it, I put in a new pressure plate, disk and throwout bearing. I was careful to torque all bolts to spec. When I engage the clutch, I get a rattling sound. Clutch release is very smooth and the sound goes away about 1/4 the way out. I pulled the bottom pan and the only thing I can find is a bit of play where the tabs of the pressure plate protrude through the housing. Any ideas??? Also, does anyone know what keeps the flapper which selects heater or defrost in place. Mine won't stay in position. I've thought about some springs and a 2x4 but felt this might look out of place. | | |
#26824 02/12/2002 12:58 PM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | I would say the release bearing is making the noise.Did you replace it? some people will only replace the bearing and NOT the collar the bearing is pressed onto.I always LIKE to replace the bearing assembly when I do a clutch job so I don`t have to take it apart again and do it later. . The other thing it could be is weak or broken damper springs in the center of the clutch disc itself.
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#26825 02/12/2002 11:36 PM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 31 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 31 | How about the pilot bearing in the end of the crank? Is there one even in there?
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#26826 02/14/2002 5:55 AM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 167 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 167 | Did you resurface, or replace the flywheel before you put the new clutch in? My friends problem was he forgot to resurface his. Dave
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#26827 02/14/2002 6:45 AM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | Originally posted by dsandberg:
Also, does anyone know what keeps the flapper which selects heater or defrost in place. Mine won't stay in position. I've thought about some springs and a 2x4 but felt this might look out of place. Is this one of the round heaters where the control is simply a lever on the shaft on the heater? If so, pressure on the shaft by the rubber bushings that the shaft goes through hold the flap in place. I found some replacements at the hardware store that were almost the same size as the original.
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#26828 02/14/2002 4:17 PM | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 1,904 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2001 Posts: 1,904 | I think I have enough friction in my cable assembly to keep the flap in place. 1948 3/4-Ton 5-Window Flatbed Chevrolet 34 Years. Now with a '61 261, 848 head, Rochester Monojet carb, SM420 4-speed, 4.10 rear, dual reservoir MC, Bendix up front, 235/85R16 tires, 12-volt w/alternator, electric wipers and a modern radio in the glove box.
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#26829 02/15/2002 1:34 AM | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 14 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 14 | OK guys thanks for the pointers. 1. I did not resurface the flywheel. But the release is smooth so I doubt that's the problem. 2. There is no pilot bearing, it is strictly a bushing and fits well. 3. The pressure plate, disk and throwout bearing complete with housing are all new. 4. Thanks for the tip on the heater flap. I'll check out the hardware store for some grommets the right size. | | |
#26830 02/15/2002 2:04 AM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,096 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,096 | When you refer to the ' TABS ON THE PRESSURE PLATE" I assume you mean the retracting springs . If these are loose , then you will get the rattle sound . Is the pressure plate a rebuilt item , if so that may be your problem . | | |
#26831 02/16/2002 1:40 AM | Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 45 Member | | Member Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 45 | Are you using an 11" clutch with the 9 bolt type pressure plate? Does it only rattle with the clutch in? If the answer is yes, then you probably have the same problem I had when I tried to replace one of these in my '53. The problem with mine was that there was nothing to keep the pressure ring from rattling when the pressure was removed from it (pushing in the clutch). The only solution I know for this is to find a good used one or switch everything over to the 55-62 12-volt style which is what I did. The later plates have spring steel straps riveted to the housing that keeps some residual pressure on the ring, these remanufactured 9-bolters that I was trying to use didn't, thats why they rattled. Otherwise you may have some loose flywheel bolts. | | |
#26832 02/16/2002 2:17 AM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 130 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 130 | hello dsandberg. i have to suggest that you check to see that the the new throwout bearing is not installed backwards. your clutch might still work, but if the bearing is reversed , the portion of it that is formed to fit the throwout arm will push against the preasure plate rather than the bearing surface, and it would be pretty noisy when you step on the pedal. hope this helps. good luck.
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#26833 02/16/2002 3:33 AM | Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 247 Member | | Member Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 247 | I'd make sure that you didn't install the clutch plate backwards. There is a flywheel side and a pressure plate side. The flat side goes toward the flywheel, and the side that sticks up faces the clutch diaphram. It can make a rattling sound and still work, although it doesn't have a lot of holding power. It will usually sound like springs being rubbed against metal (which is what is actually happening - the springs in the clutch plate are rubbing against the flywheel). | | |
#26834 02/17/2002 7:45 AM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | Good point Vaughn,,,,,, the disc COULD be in backwards.
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#26835 02/19/2002 11:06 PM | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 14 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 14 | OK, guys, now I've got more to check. I'm pretty sure the disc is in correctly as there was a sticker indicating which side goes towards the flywheel. I think the theory about the 11 inch / 9 bolt unit is probably the issue. I'll check that when I get a chance. Thanks to all for some good ideas as usual. | | |
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