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#26081 03/05/2003 12:12 AM
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Are all Borg Warner T-85N 3 Speed manual transmissions with overdrive the same.

What I mean is, it seems like Chev, **** , Studbaker, AMC, and maybe a few others used this transmission.

Are they all the same or do I need one that came from a 50's Chevrolet product to bolt into my 59, 235 I6?

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#26082 03/05/2003 2:41 AM
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Not sure about those off brand vechiles, but from what I have been told Chevy used the 3 speed OD until the earlier 70's. The one I am running in my 57 with a 235 came from a mid sixties. And was a bolt in, hour job, except for figuing out the mystery box (shifting linage box, what ever it's called). Don't take the shift rods off until you pop the cap on the column shift box and watch how it works with somebody shifting the truck. Rule two don't have the truck running and your wife running the shifter, if she just found out about your girlfriend.

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#26083 03/05/2003 11:52 AM
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Chevy used versions of its own Muncie and Saginaw transmissions with an overdrive unit . The T85 is a fairly rugged trans used by FoMoCo and probably Stude and AMC, and don't think it was offered with a GM bolt pattern. There is an article on the web about rebuilding a T85 for use in an old Suburban, but the trans shown is a Muncie OD unit.

#26084 03/05/2003 5:03 PM
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According to the article on the burb page this transmission was used in Studebakers, GM, and **** cars and trucks. Also from a member of the oletruck list the Borg Warner was used in the 50's in Chev's and from 65-72 Chev used a Saginaw with the Borg Warner overdrive.

Just internet information, and not proven!


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#26085 03/05/2003 10:52 PM
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Yes, internet information, at the bottom of the website page is a photo of the tranny, its a 4 bolt side cover Muncie, with the Borg Warner OD in the tail housing as used from 55-64 in Chevy's. A T-85 has a large side cover held on by 7 or so bolts.It's possible that Stude or AMc used a GM bolt pattern. The original T-10 4spd evolved from the T-85 in 1957.


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