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#25783 05/17/2004 9:28 PM | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 Member | | Member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 | I was driving home last night and my Truck started to have a burning smell and was riding rough. I couldn't get it over 35 and when I tried it sounded like I was reving it up. Got home and checked under hood. fluid every wear. Transmission fluid. The truck will not move when put into gear it jumps but doesn't move. I know this is the transmission, but what might this be and how should I fix it? | | |
#25784 05/17/2004 9:44 PM | Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,839 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,839 | Are we talking fried tranny ? Can you see where the oil came out ? Sorry to hear about this type of problem.
Craig My '50 Chevy 3100 5 window, '62-235cu, 3:55 rear My truck ....... Respect The Rust If I'm not working on my truck, '65 m00stang or VW camper, I'm fishing with the wife or smoking Salmon.
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#25785 05/17/2004 10:25 PM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 328 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2003 Posts: 328 | Must be an automatic. Sounds like rebuild time. You need to make sure that both lines to the transmission cooler are not clogged. Also, pull the pan and look for fragments in the pan.
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#25786 05/17/2004 10:35 PM | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 Member | | Member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 | Yes its an Auto, I can't tell where the oil is coming from. I did have a line the runs by my raditor that was unconnected and leaking but it looked like oil and the fluid that was all over my engine looked like tranny fluid. | | |
#25787 05/17/2004 11:07 PM | Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 438 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 438 | Salinaz-
You may have blown the connection to the transmission cooler on the lower part of the radiator. However, you still need to pull the tranny pan to see if the blown line was cause or effect. Can you get under it to pull the tranny pan? If you blew the connection and kept driving, you may have fried the uncooled tranny. | | |
#25788 05/18/2004 4:11 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 Member | | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 | if the oil cooling line from tranny popped off the radiator, then it will dump oil everywhere and get on the headers and burn and make a stink. Pull pan and check that no major bits are in it, some old clutch material and stuff is ok.
Clean all, reassemble, put line back on, fill with goo, should go again.
Question is - was line old and just gave way? | | |
#25789 05/18/2004 5:27 AM | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 Member | | Member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 | Well the line did come off the oil cooler and I did put it back on, I put more tranny fluid in and still will not move. it jumps when I put it into r or d and thats it. | | |
#25790 05/18/2004 5:59 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 Member | | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 | well...runing it without goo might have done it in. You might take the pan off and see what's in there. Or run over to a tranny shop, its not incredibly user serviceable. The goo not only provides the hydraulic coupling between the torque converter and the engine, but also powers the fluidic logic of the valve body so that it selects gears.
When you say jumps, do you mean it hops a bit, or jumps once when switching into gear? I also take it engine revs make no difference. You also tried all positions, such as low and drive and reverse?
If the torque converter has no goo - it won't move - but likewise - if the goo doesn't engage the clutches - it won't move either.
Is goo up to correct level? Sometimes you have to row it through the gears to get the goo in the converter and then go back and add more. | | |
#25791 05/18/2004 6:09 AM | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 Member | | Member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 | when it jumps, it just hops alittle and thats it | | |
#25792 05/18/2004 7:32 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 Member | | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 | all I can say is if it doesn't work, and linkage is not messed up, and the goo level is right - you could open the pan and see what's in there - but even then - dunno what you would do next.
If the filter is clogged you could replace it - but still - if it was clogged - could be from metal - making and much bigger issues.
You could try a junque yard tranny replacement. | | |
#25793 05/18/2004 9:58 PM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,747 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,747 | What year, and which transmission? It sounds like you've burned up some clutches with the fluid loss, and it's rebuild time. If it's a turbo 350, they're not too expensive to build, and there's a lot of them out there if you choose a salvage yard tranny. If you do, drop the pan and change the filter and fluid, and also replace the front and rear seals before installing the transmission. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
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#25794 05/19/2004 5:12 AM | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 Member | | Member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 | With the fluid loss I wanted to see if that may have been it, I put in a few quarts and it started to move, not real well, butt did move, I need to put some more in and try it again. | | |
#25795 05/19/2004 8:08 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 Member | | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 | well, you have to row it through the gear selector and make sure the oil is the right level in the tranny or you'll blow a seal or it won't move. Check the dipstick in the tranny with the thing running but not in gear. Once at level, try fwd/bckwd, then check level again - you have to get goo in all the valve bodies. | | |
#25796 05/19/2004 8:28 PM | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 Member | | Member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 | Well after I put in like a crap load of fluid, it seems to be up and running again. Thanks for all your help. Should I check anything else? | | |
#25797 05/19/2004 9:07 PM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 124 Member | | Member Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 124 | Glad to hear that there was no major problem!
These trannys do take a lot of fluid to fill up... | | |
#25798 05/20/2004 4:03 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 Member | | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 | just watch the level, and I think you are ok. TH350s are pretty tough customers. | | |
#25799 05/20/2004 5:36 AM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 23 Member | | Member Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 23 | As long as you didnt have to put in more than 12 quarts your good. TH/350's generally need about 10-11 quarts (i think) when completely empty, including empty convertor. If tranny were to die in the future, it shouldn't be too hard to pull out.
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#25800 05/20/2004 7:19 AM | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 Member | | Member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 7 | It took 7 quarts, not to bad, it runs good. Thanks everyone for your help. | | |
#25801 05/21/2004 6:32 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,747 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,747 | If you've got room without overfilling, add a pint of "Trans-Medic", or some other brand of seal conditioner. That stuff softens the rubber in the seals, and makes them seal better. Just don't overdo it, more is definitely not better in this case. If one bottle doesn't help, adding another one will make things worse! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
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