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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12 | Does anyone out there have any experience with a modified stock exhaust manifold to dual such as the one offered by Jim Carter? Any comments on the sound or performance for a 235? Probably just as important, would there be any problem with the fitting of the stock intake (I don't want to grind on anything)? Is there a pre-heating of the fuel issue (the heating plate required when using the Fentons)? | | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 684 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 684 | It was very common in the 40's and 50's to modify the stock exhaust manifold by welding a plate inside to divide the manifold the plate usually had a 1/2 hole to equalize one side to the other A hole was drilled in to the bottom of the manifold toward the rear of the engine to accept a short piece of pipe with a flange on it for the second exhaust pipe. I had a couple of stovebolts in the 50's with split manifolds. They sounded wonderful. The California Highway Patrol ticketed me more then once for excessive noise. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 637 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 637 | 31,32,33 You didn't have the market cornered on CHP tickets for excessive noise. I probably got a total of 12 tickets for noise. CHP, Montebello, Ca, Burbank, Ca. LAPD were all the givers. Now I have a Harley with no mufflers and have ridden it for over 15 yrs. like that and have never even been stopped for noise. Guess times are a changing. There is no sound like that of a split manifold on a 235, music to my ears. I now have Fentons on my GMC 248, but with Turbo mufflers so it's kind of quiet. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 | I’m still waiting to see a picture of what Jim Carter offers but I split mine using a heavy wall 90 degree steel elbow with a steel flange and fit it up for a welder who knew what to do with it. It turned out like this. I.M.O. retaining the heatbox by using a split stock manifold, Fentons with built in heat riser, or the Corvette cast dual are the way to go for the best driveability and sound. Grinding or machining the manifolds usually is only required when using an Offenhauser intake with Fenton headers to eliminate interference and should never be required with a stock intake. If you decide to go with the repop Fenton headers a heat kit will give some warmth to the manifold but I believe direct contact is best. No matter how you split it you’ll love the sound. Curt B.
1952 1300 Canadian 1/2 ton restomod You Tube | | | | | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 703 | Mike,
It aint a 235, but I'm running a split stock manifold on the 216 in my 46. Dual pipes, running through glass-packs. Sounds great.
Even though I don't have the heat-riser in place anymore, I've never had a problem with it starting up and running smoothly (with a slight bit of choke) even during the coldest of Colorado's winter weather.
I found an old guy at the local radiator/exhaust shop that split mine exactly as 31,32,33 outlined, and the best part was it only cost me $45.00.
Actually half of that, as they split two different manifolds for that price.
I've read several threads here regarding the grinding etc. you referred to with the Fentons. I'd like to have a set just for grins, but I'm just as happy with my split and glass-packs.
They have a very nice cackling rumble at any speed, yet I'm still able to have a civil conversation inside of the cab. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 684 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 684 | chevman 32, I have noticed the same thing. I think the police have to many more important problems in this day in age than loud exhaust pipes to be concerned with. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 513 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 513 | you might be able get yours split, or find a used split one for a lot cheaper 1949 Chevy 3600 Flatbed all orginal 1964 gmc 4000 1973 gmc 6000 2005 chevy duramax 4x4 1994 chevy 1500 Trucks are GM and Tractors are Orange "I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom." - General George S. Patton | | | | | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 22 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 22 | Originally posted by 31,32,33: chevman 32, I have noticed the same thing. I think the police have to many more important problems in this day in age than loud exhaust pipes to be concerned with. that is ONE good thing that the "ricers" and "tuners" have done to the automotive world, they get the all the cops attention now. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 322 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 322 | NorCalMike, Guess you are going to have to wait for someone that has seen Carter's split manifold....I think this question has been asked before, and I don't think anyone has yet shared their experience.
I would like to see one too since Kansas Kustoms is no longer doing them. If you can't find someone local with experience....I think their is someone over on Inliners that is now advertising their services.
Maybe someone from the KC area can take a picture of one of Carter's next time they are there?
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1950 3100 w/57 235 Patrick’s Saginaw 4 speed and 3:55 rear end | | | | | Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 153 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 153 | I have seen the manifolds split both to the left and to the right of the carb/heat box. Does it make any difference which side gets the "new" flange? 1946 Chevy Half Ton ('56 235, '86 T5, '79 Camaro Z28 rear end, working on the '85 Jaguar XJ6 IFS) 1976 Margay Panther X, MC91B | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 | Point of interest...the glass packs (Cherry Bombs) need to have round rounds in the resonator area not ovals or slits. Burn the fiberglass out with a couple of runs and you'll thinkd your flying a P-47 Thunderbolt.
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Gangster whites and straight pipes.....
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,513 | Originally posted by 46SortaStock: I have seen the manifolds split both to the left and to the right of the carb/heat box. Does it make any difference which side gets the "new" flange? That depends on application. Front dump is necessary for a column shift truck but some cars have the motor mount there and need it at the back. Either is good with the primary purpose of retaining the heat box. Why is it that more than 90 percent of aftermarket intake manifolds made for stovebolts have a provision for mounting to the stock exhaust? Curt B.
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