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#21794 06/30/2004 6:57 PM | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 158 Member | | Member Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 158 | I wanted to know if a 305sbc could handle an Edelbrock 1407 750cfm carburetor. It also has the Performer RPM intake manifold. So, would me 305sbc be able to handle 750cfm ok?
- Shane
- Shane (ChevyToughRebel) 2 Trucks; -1955 3/4 Ton Chevy -1979 3/4 Ton Custom Deluxe 20 4x4 1955 Second Series 3600 GED = Git Er Done
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#21795 06/30/2004 7:21 PM | Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 687 | Shane: I'm going to be gentle here, yes if you want to overload, the true answer is No to make that 305 sing I would use 600 cfm elderbrock.
A 750 is more compatable for big block (cubic inch) or super hopped up 350's that has the right pistons, cam, heads, and proper headers. pops
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#21796 06/30/2004 8:11 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | Have to agree with popcorn. Go with something in the 500-600 cfm range. 600 cfm is good for up to around 325 hp, depending on the manufacturer specs.
Fred 52 3600 69 C-10
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#21797 07/01/2004 12:06 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,811 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,811 | Here's a quick way to figure the CFM an engine actually needs, and the results are going to surprise some folks:
Divide the cubic inch displacement by 2. Multiply this figure by the max RPM you plan to run. Divide this figure by 1728. The resulting figure will be the CFM the engine should theoretically be able to use, with 100% volumetric efficiency. For a more practical figure, multiply the theoretical CFM by .9, or 90% Volumetric efficiency, which is about right for a street engine without a radical camshaft and big ports and valves.
Using this formula, your 305 has a theoretical CFM of 353 at 4,000 RPM, and a practical CFM of about 318. I'd say a 750 CFM carb would be WAY over-carbureted! A 500 would be about right. If you want the best possible solution, use the factory Quadrajet calibrated for a 305, with the stock manifold for the carb. The secondary air valve prevents the carb from opening too far and leaning the mixture out, and the jetting and manifold design have had untold hours of factory dyno work built into it. Jerry
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#21798 07/01/2004 12:07 AM | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 962 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 962 | Depends on the carb. The rochester Q-jets had a spring loaded air flap over the secondaries. The carb would only give the engine what it wanted according to vacuum demand. The airflap would open progressively at full throttle on a small motor, to keep the airspeed thru the carb venturis at a high enough speed for a good mixture independant of RPM. The Q-jets were all rated at 750-800 CFM, and were factory equipment on everything from 305s to 455s. They were just factory calibrated for each application. On the other end of the specturm is the Holley manual secondary models. When you mash the gas, it opens all 4 bbls at once with no airflap. Manifold vacuum goes to squat, resulting in a huge BOG until the motor RPMs catch up to the carb's throttle position. Some edelbrock carbs operate on the same principle, so see if your carb is a Q-jet replacement or a Holley replacement. I must respectfully disagree with Mr. Lincoln on one point.  The Performer (not RPM) manifolds are equal or superior to many chevy stock intakes in weight and port CFM. They can provide a slight HP increase on a stockish motor with a significant weight savings. The RPM model will hurt your low-end torque below 1500 RPM. But you'll see gains in midrange and top end with proper cam and valvetrain selection. chip
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#21799 07/01/2004 12:24 AM | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 158 Member | | Member Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 158 | Ok guys thanks, I was outbid anyway on it and decided best to just get a 1405 (600cfm manual choke) thats either new, or barely used. That one 750cfm only had 300 miles on it to break in a motor. Ok 600 CFM it is, thanks!
- Shane
- Shane (ChevyToughRebel) 2 Trucks; -1955 3/4 Ton Chevy -1979 3/4 Ton Custom Deluxe 20 4x4 1955 Second Series 3600 GED = Git Er Done
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#21800 07/01/2004 1:11 AM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | Is there a reason why you're going with the manual choke? I went with the Holley, vacuum secondaries and electric choke and couldn't be happier.
Fred 52 3600 69 C-10
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#21801 07/01/2004 3:40 AM | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 158 Member | | Member Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 158 | Well, I figure I have more control over the carb that way, and if I need more RPM,s, like say when running a winch then that would be helpful, or when running a Tranny powered winch (I think those are good examples). If I need the electric choke, then I have a 1406 that has it. But my 1406 is worn out and needs replacing.
- Shane
- Shane (ChevyToughRebel) 2 Trucks; -1955 3/4 Ton Chevy -1979 3/4 Ton Custom Deluxe 20 4x4 1955 Second Series 3600 GED = Git Er Done
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