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#21756 07/19/2004 2:40 PM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 | Where might this thing be? After reading the archives here on coolant flushing and proper thermostats, etc. I saw a post mentioning a block flush petcock on the driver side, low, near rear of block. I dont see one anywhere, on either of my two engines. Is it hidden behind the bellhousing perhaps? TIA | | |
#21757 07/19/2004 4:39 PM | Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 188 Member | | Member Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 188 | It's on the drivers side about 4-6" in front of the bell housing about 5-6" above the pan. It's 3/8" pipe thread. The petcock might have been repalced with a plug. I'm going off of memory here, but that should get you close. It's there! | | |
#21758 07/19/2004 6:04 PM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 | Nope, no plugs, no petcock. There are the two bosses that the bellcrank linkage bolts too. It wouldnt be disguised as one of those, would it? Engine is a '61. | | |
#21759 07/19/2004 8:10 PM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,337 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,337 | I just measured and the plug is 1 1/2" from rear of block and 4 1/4" up from pan gasket.
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#21760 07/19/2004 9:42 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | | | |
#21761 07/19/2004 10:28 PM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 | Thanks guys, I figured it out, the return spring for the throttle is attached to a bolt that is stuck in that hole on mine. I got it out, and spent the better part of the last four hours trying to get the thing cleaned out and flowing freely. No luck. Dug lots of gunk out of there, then attacked it with degreaser, got more stuff out of there, flushed it with brake cleaner, more junk came out, went at it with a pump sprayer of muriatic acid, its running clean out of there. But nothing will drain down from the upper part of the block either. As the head and water pump are removed, I can tell there is no water being forced up thru the block opening either. Any suggestions? | | |
#21762 07/20/2004 2:34 PM | Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 188 Member | | Member Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 188 | I'm not sure What is happening with your block. I adapted a pipe nipple to a garden hose connection on mine and back flushed the block that way. | | |
#21763 07/20/2004 2:54 PM | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 506 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 506 | Get a coat hanger take out the petcock and start digging and flushing. What happens to these engines over time with neglect is crap builds up around the rear cyl and they tend to over heat with no coolant flowing around the cyl. You must open it up. Good luck. You may have to take off the water pump to get more stuff out. Time spent cleaning will pay dividends.
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#21764 07/20/2004 4:29 PM | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 43 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: May 2004 Posts: 43 | Is a 1954 vintage 235 engine the same? | | |
#21765 07/20/2004 4:59 PM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 | The head and water pump have already been removed, and I was able to flush lots of rust out of the block that way. Used pipe cleaners, coat hangers, degreasers, acid, etc. but cant get the bottom hole in back of block to open up. Wasnt having any overheat problems before, but have engine all opened up for new cam and lifters, and freshed head and will be putting newly re cored (3 row) radiator back in. Trying to do all the preventative maintenance I can before buttoning everything back up. I'll play with it some more this afternoon. | | |
#21766 07/20/2004 5:30 PM | Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 506 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 506 | Dave, Yes. All the 216's and 235's have a tendency to build up junk around #6 cyl.
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#21767 07/20/2004 5:53 PM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 |
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#21768 07/20/2004 6:34 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | Did you try back-flushing, like Dave S. said? Go to the hardware store, get a 1/4" pipe nipple and an adapter to a garden hose. When back-flushing I like to rig so that I have a valve close to the truck so I can see what's happening.
You could also hook up to an air compressor, if you have one. The threaded end of an air hose is 1/4" pipe thread, too.
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#21769 07/20/2004 9:34 PM | Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 252 | Well, SUCCESS! I had tried all of the above except the air compressor idea. A good idea. Two days ago I had just finished routing the lock out cable for the old Borg Warner OD tranny. I had a little extra push/pull cable left, of the lawn mower throttle cable variety. I used that as a small diameter "snake". Was still a little work, but was sturdy enough to twist it's way thru the gunk. All is running nice and clear now. Thanks for the help. Now I gotta go out and clean the river of rust off the driveway. | | |
#21770 07/20/2004 10:39 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Pull the freeze plugs & flush it. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
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