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#213487 08/10/2006 6:23 AM
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Just brought my second stovebolt home, and I've forgotten everything my first (a '53) taught me - it was a long time ago. This is a '51 3800, and the vacuum-driven wipers are lame. Doesn't matter just now, but I do live in a rain forest and eventually the monsoon will start. I'm keeping the 6V system intact, so looking for suggestions from all you gearheads for making the wipers do their best work.


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#213488 08/10/2006 6:38 AM
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The double fuel pump/vacuum pump on my '54 GMC works just fine. Have you tried that?

#213489 08/10/2006 3:49 PM
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Haven't tried much of anything just yet, having brought her home only yesterday. There's an electric fuel pump in there, possibly because the cam lobe won't push a pump any more (but I haven't looked). Where did your pump come from, Chevman?


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#213490 08/10/2006 6:39 PM
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Chances are good that the internals of the wiper motor are shot. If true, there are two options. First you can send it to the Wiperman at www.wiperman.com and he will rebuild it for you. The other option is to get a rebuilt one from one of the vendors. The other possibility is that the vacuum from your manifold is low. Throw a gauge on it. You should see 19 to 21 inches of vacuum.

#213491 08/10/2006 7:17 PM
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There is a 'Third-Way', which is an electric wiper motor conversion. They run around $150 for the motor and bracket. For an additional few bucks you can get optional delay style wipers, which run slower for mists, etc... I believe it is worth it.

If you can't find a 6v wiper moter conversion, you can get a 12 volt one and use a "6v to 12v" inverter/converter, which runs about $30 from Jim Carter and others.

On a side note, regardles of what motor moves them, upgrading to more modern wiper arms and blades for daily use has been a great thing for me. I got universal fit 10" or 11" blades from NAPA and they work very nicely.


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Hotshoe, I lived your situation about 2 weeks ago, but no longer. My wipers were sluggish at best, would only go through half of the swing without help. First, I researched Stovebolt.com for previous threads regarding vacuum wiper rebuild, then I went to Wiperman and got what info was available. (I was going to send my motor to him if it still didn't work after I messed with it. I've heard nothing but good feedback from his craftsmanship.)

After noting what was connected where, I used a clutch head screwdriver and pulled the motor out from under the dash. I also pulled out the wiper knob while I was at it. I disassembled the motor and used lithium grease to lubricate the actuator that is cable-driven. I also lubricated the cable with WD40 so that the knob would spin smoothly and the cable would glide.

Next, I took apart the housing. There are two screws (oblong head) that aren't too easy to remove. While these are out, use a hacksaw and cut a little groove in them so that you can use a little screwdriver on them You'll be glad you did. Be very careful with the paper gaskets- they are delicate and probably brittle. Don't forget to remove the air filter- mine was deep dark brown. eek

I cleaned out all of the disgusting old grease that had been in there for the last 50 years. Next, I used the sage advice of the tribal elders and lubed up the paddle with Vaseline. I gooped it up well, slapped it back and forth and removed the excess. I replaced the filter with some wadded cotton. When it was all back together, it felt air tight and MUCH smoother.

I reinstalled it and the knob. (I just posted a msg about a really cool tool you can buy at your local hardware store for tightening up the knob bezel. Look in the "Tool Chest" section for details.) The first time I twisted the knob to turn it on, I threw the blades off of the arms. It worked wonderfully for nothing more than the cost of the goop of Vaseline.

Now I'm having to buy new arms and blades to keep up with my supercharged vacuum motor! cool

One of my vacuum supply lines is new, but the other is fairly brittle. I'm going to replace that when I get the new blades/arms.

One word of advice: if you live in the monsoon zone, and you plan to drive your truck during the monsoons, you really should give careful consideration to going the electric route. There is a reason all current production uses electric wipers! I live where it is dry and have no plans to drive in the rain. The wipers are there to pass state inspection and an occasional gotcha shower.

Bill

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The inverter for 6v to 12V cost 4.95 at auto zone electric motor 150.at CD.Fits perfect 2 speed motor


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