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#202964 03/05/2006 4:53 PM
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Ihave heard these mentioned here and asked for them at napa.They hadd never heard of them.Tryed 2 more and they scratch there heads and try to sell me a vacume bleeder.Last night i tryed auto zone and the first guy takes me to the vacume pumps.Second guy knew what i wanted and they had them 2 in a pack in the HELP! line.for 10 bucks.Package says for one man bleeder operation install and back off 1/4 turn.MY understanding is these have a check ball in them and dont alow air back in when you realease the pedal.Do they alow only air out ?Ithink my problem is air in the line.P.O.said brakes were fine till he broke a line and after replaceing it its ben a 2 pumper.First pump to floor,second good pedal.Inoticed last night that the new line by one wheel has a lot of bends like the line was way to long and made up for it with s bends.Can i smash the pedal down hard with these valves to get the air out of these bends.


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#202965 03/05/2006 5:50 PM
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Hello Slow..Rider. The bends are ok and yes the air will pass by them as if they are not even there.

Bends and kinks are two different things and if you have a line that is bent to the point of restriction you will need to replace the line.

The speedy bleeder does let everything in the line out and does not let anything back in. So if you crack them open you can bleed the line of all air until you get a good clean stream of fluid and then close it without worrying about air sucking back into the line through the bleeder when you release the brake pedal.

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You won,t have to "smash the pedal down hard". Loosen the bleeder put a little hose over it & put it in a bottle or can. Then slowly push the pedal down. Make shure the master cyl. does not run out of fluid. There are 2-3 different sizes of bleeders. Make shure you get the right ones.


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#202967 03/05/2006 6:02 PM
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I pulled one bleeder off and sent my son to get some .Ive bleed this thing a doezen times and even tryed gravity bleeding with no luck.Im only going to replace the 2 rear bleeders and will post my results later today.Thanks for the advice ,ron.


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#202968 03/05/2006 6:14 PM
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Speed bleeders from the "Help" rack at your local A/Z or DiscAdv. are one of the best gizmos ever invented. The key to any bleeding is to "take your time" when pumping out the air. On my 54 with a completely new upgraded system I used 12 slow pumps to clear each of the four wheels. 12 pumps, refill the m/c, do the next wheel, etc. However, if your using a step-bore m/c the procedure is completely different. A s/b m/c can be identified by a larger diameter bore close to the mount and a slightly smaller bore towards the front. If a step-bore is not properly bleed it will be difficult if not impossible to completely bleed the wheel cylinders.

I would suggest you get 4 bleeders and start out just like you had replaced the entire system. 12 pumps on each wheel should remove all the old contaminated fluid and give you the braking power and reliability you need.


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#202969 03/05/2006 6:32 PM
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They didnt have the corect size in stock for the 66 so ill have to pick them up tomorow.Ill order the front two then.


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#202970 03/05/2006 9:37 PM
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also if the peddle is hard on the second pump and up to the desired height it may be out of adjustment.Air in the line results in a spongee pedal.
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