The Stovebolt Site Forums The Shop Area General Truck Talk What ever happened to gas?

In an other thread Jim wrote:

"When gas was gas I'd get 15 but not for years now(mine has a big camper on it) I'm lucky to get 8 if I push it 75-80 it's half that"

I also learned that the gas also here in Germany is not anymore what it was before. I used to get better milage 10 jears ago.

Any thoughts or info what did they do to gas and why?

Frank

Hi Frank

Each emissions"improvement" has cost all of us tons-a-money
Somehow it's greener to burn more fuel

What's a ltr cost in Germany now?

No kidding. I was thinking that just last month when I delivered ten gallons of bad gas to the local hazmat facility.

What used to last years now lasts about three months.

BTW, has anybody seen my fuel stabilizer?

I knew it wasn't my imagination. I have seen fuel go bad much quicker, foul plugs & eat up accelerator pumps. Stabilizer(Sta-bil)is not seeming to help, I have been starting/driving stuff more often & keeping them low. Used to keep all my stuff full to prevent condensation, now keep them low so fresh gas can be added.

@Jim

We have 4 octan classes over here

Regular 92 octan
Super 95 octan
Super plus 98 octan
Ultimate 100 octan

the liter regular is 1,62$ here in Germany
that`s 6,12$ a gallon

the liter Ultimate is 2,70$
that`s 10,20$ a Gallon

- you folks live in a cheap fuel country

Frank

Where I live, the gas all now contains at least 10% ethanol. Alcohol in general contains only half the btu's per unit of volume that gas contains. In other words you have to burn twice as much alcohol as gas to do the same amount of work. So, the 10% alcohol content alone would account for about a 5% decrease in gas mileage.

I hear stories from folks who burn the stuff in the winter that their mileages drop dramatically when they have to burn the methanoled gas. So by 20% more fuel being burnt to do the same amount of work, is the reduction in pollution really a reduction?

I've noticed the same thing about Taco Bell lately. It used to give me gas for days on end but lately the fix only lasts a couple of hours. :p

Stovebold, we all get our gas from the same places. You can blame your governments over there for extreme taxation. The actual cost of the fuel here and there is the same, believe it or not. The additional money your government extorts from you to use the roads is confiscatory taxation. Plain and simple.

Granted, your roads are a lot better there, and your distances are much shorter to get from point "A" to point "B". But, I'd rather put up with a lesser-quality road and afford to drive my car than have pristine highways, but no money in my pocket to buy fuel to drive on those roads!!!

when me and my daughter drove out to utah to pick up her 51, the three squirrels that power my metro got awfully sick on that gas/alcohol mix. I thought the darn car was broken, but it cleared right up once we got out of the corn squeezins for gas states. Yea we went out to utah to buy the 51, and drove it spittin and fartin all the way back to rhode island, I can't say it was a real smart thing to do (could have shipped it), but it was an experience.

duddy